17 Nov 2016 23:58:23
Some Athletics trades (I don't mean do all of these at the same time)

Cubs acquire: Sean Doolittle
Athletics acquire: Jorge Soler, Duane Underwood, Vitor Caratini

Yankees acquire: Sonny Gray
Athletics acquire: Jorge Mateo, Justus Sheffield, Domingo Acevedo, Michael Andjuar, Brett Gardner

Rays acquire: Stephen Vogt
Athletics acquire: Drew Smyly, Nick Franklin, Lucius Fox

Blue Jays acquire: Ryan Madson
Athletics acquire: Dalton Pompey, Harold Ramirez, PTBN

Deal 1 is basically the Cubs acquiring a good closer/ setup man who is below 30 in age for pieces they don't need and is probably my favorite.
Deal 2 is a Sonny Gray trade, and I feel like if anyone wants him the most it's the Yankees. They're not gaining much payroll (they're actually losing more by trading Gardner) and Gray could head up the rotation with Tanaka, when they re-sign him for years to come. Yes, they're giving up 4 prospects who could either be Top 5 prospects on other teams or already are and Brett Gardner, but let's face it; it wouldn't be an offseason without the Yankees making a splash. Now, they get to do it by cutting payroll. The A's get a huge package for Gray at a time when his value has dropped, and enter rebuild-mode.
Deal 3 is interesting for both teams. I know the A's might be selling a little low on Vogt, but Franklin and Smyly could thrive if they left Tampa. Smyly had a down year, but pitched well before that, and Franklin was once a top prospect but is blocked completely in Tampa Bay. Both might have the opportunity to thrive in regular roles. Fox is added to sweeten the pot and could possibly make it to Oakland in a key role.
Deal 4 is probably my least favorite. Madson looks good on paper with Toronto and the A's are rebuilding. But do the Jays pay 7 million to someone who might not even be their setup man (if Biagini stays in bullpen) when they're trying to save salary, and does Oakland trade their closer for two high reward-low risk prospects? This trade is mostly done because Madson makes sense for Toronto and the A's could be intrigued a lot by Pompey.

Which trades make sense and which ones don't?


1.) 18 Nov 2016
18 Nov 2016 08:50:52
Rays could do much better. Vogt hasn't been that great offensively since the first half of 2015 and doesn't grade out well defensively. With the dearth of options for starting pitching, Rays will get someone to overpay for a starter.


2.) 18 Nov 2016
18 Nov 2016 11:50:04
You really over-value the A's players.


3.) 18 Nov 2016
18 Nov 2016 14:26:59
Gray's value is down right now IMO, after having an injury plagued, inconsistent year. Plus aren't the Yankees getting younger? I don't think they traded away Chapman, Miller, Beltran, and now McCann to just go and flip prospects they will need down the line. So how does Vogt bring the A's Smyly, Franklin, and Fox? It doesn't make sense.


4.) 18 Nov 2016
18 Nov 2016 14:47:17
bossmanjunior33, I know but Vogt was an all-star last year, and Smyly is coming off a down year. Maybe take Fox out of the deal.


5.) 18 Nov 2016
18 Nov 2016 17:24:29
haha, mason for pompey? you can't be serious.


6.) 18 Nov 2016
18 Nov 2016 21:34:03
The Gray trade won't happen, I was trying to think of one that made sense. Gray isn't making the Yankees older very much.