23 Jun 2018 04:00:29
Mets rebuild:

Yankees get: Jacob DeGrom
Mets get: Miguel Andujar, Chance Adams, Justus Sheffield, Clint Frazier


Astros get: Jeurys Familia
Mets get: Cionel Perez, JD Davis, Derek Fisher


Braves get: Todd Frazier
Mets get: Touki Toussaint, PTBNL


Red Sox get: Yoenis Cespedes
Mets get: Jalen Beeks, Chandler Shepherd, Tzu-Wei Lin, Michael Chavis


1.) 27 Jun 2018
27 Jun 2018 01:52:55
No way the Yankees get deGrom for that cheap.


2.) 03 Jul 2018
03 Jul 2018 03:52:31
Stat, c'mon-Cheap? 4 players ranked in Top 100 prospects in '17 and '18. Sale-didn't get 4. What pitcher was traded for 4 Top 100 prospects? Stop hating on the Yanks prospects. Baseball America ranks them 2nd best minor system. Mets would jump on that offer. 25 years of control for stud pitcher with 2.5 left who they won't win with.


3.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 14:11:48
No, the Yankees won't convince the Mets (who haven't traded with the Yankees in-season since 2003) for anything short of a heist.

deGrom is a top 15-20 pitcher in the league. Start thinking an absurd package you don't want to lose in order to acquire him.


4.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 14:25:13
Also, the Red Sox gave up the (pretty much) undisputed #1 prospect in baseball at the time for Chris Sale, along with other highly touted young prospects.

Or think of it this way, Cole Hamels, when traded from Philadelphia to Texas, received more than deGrom gets in the above deal. And Hamels was owed nearly a hundred million dollars on his deal still.

The Yankees would get two more seasons of arbitration with deGrom. I would fully expect the Mets to ask the moon for a guy whose 5th since 2015 in Pitching WAR and still under team control. Hint: the return above ain't close to the moon.


5.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 17:39:59
Only 1 of the other top prospects for Sale was a Top 100 at the time-Kopech. The others weren't. No 4 Top 100 prospects were given up for SP. That's all I said-which is correct. As for Mets trading with Yankees-we all know that's NEVER going to happen without ridiculous overpay. But let's see how intelligent you are-would it or not be beneficial to Mets franchise to trade DeGrom for proposed 4-for-1 above? Never mind public relations or trading to inter-city rivals. Would it make Mets better set up for future than 2.5 years of DeGrom? That's all above proposal is attempting. Trade that will benefit both sides. We know Mets won't do it. Yanks won't do your crazy overpay either. Is it fair? YES. Will it happen? No.


6.) 06 Jul 2018
06 Jul 2018 22:18:36
Something else not mentioned here: the Yankees don't have a ton of leverage right now. After Severino, Sabathia is the only decent pitcher they have, and that's it. And even Sabathia would be greatly disadvantaged versus most teams #2 starters in the playoffs.

Do the Yankees want to run with Gray, German, and trust on Tanaka to be healthy come playoff time? Of course not. They NEED that front-line starter, and you can bet your bottom dollar every team knows it.

The Dodgers are in the same boat, and teams will do everything to gouge them and the Yankees. Because let's face it, they can't afford to just stand there and do nothing.


7.) 07 Jul 2018
07 Jul 2018 09:58:24
No, the Mets don't benefit from trading deGrom for a a light return, especially if they are helping out a cross-town rival.

At this point, Yankee fans better just expect a boring trade for someone like J. A. Happ (and watch them hugely overpay for him) and move on from the blockbuster trades for an ace. It simply won't happen. No one is taking a bunch of question-mark minor leaguers for a legitimate ace, they want superstars. You can fill in the blank for who that superstar may be. If you think it's Andujar, you're probably a Yankee fan.


8.) 10 Jul 2018
10 Jul 2018 22:14:44
Stat-Here are some facts. The Yanks are 37-3 in games with Quality start. Think about that! JA Happ would provide more QS's-not boring. More facts-CC had 2.34 ERA in playoffs last year, Tanaka 0.90.Which one would be "greatly disadvantaged? " You don't know what you are talking about. As for Andujar-ranked #4 3B prospect in baseball. Has 40 extra base hits in half year-more than any rookie. Here's a simple question-who would White Sox rather have as compensation for Sale-Andujar or "undisputed" top prospect Moncada. Just check out OPS. .808 vs .706. If Moncada is a "superstar"- then so is Andujar. BTW-read Giants wanted Sheffield, Andujar and Frazier for MadBum. I may be a "Yankee fan" but at least I know baseball.


9.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 03:36:48
Their starters not named Luis Severino have a combined 4.94 ERA this year. That is not good. They NEED a starter. I'd say they should be desperate for one. That desperation will come at a premium.

Also, where did you read what the Giants asked for Bumgarner? You probably read the article from nj. com that suggested what the Yankees could give for Bumgarner, but there's been no hint of an asking price from Evans, and rightly so: he's not available.

Also, if you're going to see what the Giants would "want", it's probably best to read Bay Area newspapers, not New York ones. Bay Area papers don't care about what Yankee fans think. New Jersey papers do.


10.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 04:00:05
So until you find me a post that says what the GIANTS asked the Yankees for, and not some silly "Here's how a Madison Bumgarner trade could work" article from a New York newspaper whose job it is to sell papers to clueless bandwagon fans, let's end the Bumgarner nonsense. It's a complete pipe dream.

As far as the Andujar/ Moncada comparison is concerned, Andujar is very good. I've never once denied it. Most scouts would still take Moncada. Andujar isn't a superstar. No scouts believe it. Hell, even the Yankees don't believe it. How do I know? They are actively trying to trade for Manny Machado. You don't give up premium prospects to replace a superstar.

But I'm not going to continue to waste time on you. You can't see beyond your own team. You're the prototypical Yankee fan, thinking every young player is some future HOF. You are unreasonable, ridiculous, and it's just not worth my time.

Have fun watching the Yankees give up premium talent for J. A. Happ or Cole Hamels. I'm sure it'll be a lot of fun watching the Red Sox fly past them in the playoffs.


11.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 04:46:33
One last thing: someone who "knows baseball" knows that postseason stats are a) the worst way to measure a player and b) don't always repeat. If Sonny Gray pitches his way to a 0.60 playoff ERA this season, it doesn't make him a great pitcher. It also doesn't mean that you can rely on it next season.

It's the same reason I rarely cite Bumgarner's success in the postseason, or use Kershaw's postseason woes to speak ill of him. It's a horrible measurement.

If you think the Yankees are going to be fine trying to use Sabathia as their #2 starter in the post-season, you're insane. You think he can compete with Trevor Bauer or Gerrit Cole? I doubt even the Yankees feel that he can internally. That rotation will get eaten alive in the postseason, just as they have all season long (sans Severino) .

Their 2-5 guys have combined for 3.8 WAR. That would rank them 23rd in baseball. They need someone, and need someone immediately. They will lose in the postseason without someone (I'd say they need 2 premium starters just to even try and compete) .


12.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 15:20:06
How have the Yanks rotation been eaten alive all season? They have 39-19 record and best ERA in June and 3rd in July. These are FACTS. Try using them for once. Here are facts-Yanks have 2nd rated minor league system in baseball. Posts here are offering 3 or 4 top prospect in system and you say they are not good enough. You are the one who has slanted opinions-not me. As for you saying most scouts would still take Moncada-show me proof of that. You can't. again you are making rubbish up to support your argument. Again-I state facts, you state uninformed opinions. How are Yanks desperate when they are 37-3 with quality starts? They are not desperate. They would like dependable starter-that is not desperation. BTW-still waiting for you to point out 1 specific instance where i was wrong. Waiting. waiting. waiting.


13.) 11 Jul 2018
11 Jul 2018 21:51:41
Let's see, I've called you out for making up an asking price for Bumgarner. It's nowhere to be found, because the Giants haven't even considered trading him. (You realize the reason they want to get under the tax is to extend Bumgarner, right? )

I've called you out on saying the Yankees 2-5 guys are good. They aren't. A 4.98 ERA after Severino. That is unbelievably putrid. A 3.8 WAR for their other starters. In other words if Severino gets hurt, the Yankees rank 23rd in starting pitching WAR, and 26th in ERA. I don't know how anyone would think the Yankees can compete with that. Are you expecting Severino to pitch every game? Honest question.

I don't see how the Yankees win a series in the playoffs with that staff, especially if they can't win the division. If they play in the WC game, they may not even get to Severino in a series, that's how bad it's been. Severino has all but carried that staff. They are desperate, or at least they ought to be.

My guess is, though, Cashman will sit back and continue to count his top prospects. And he'll continue doing so in mid-October while other teams are blowing by them with pitching that actually looks like a contending baseball team.

A 4.98 ERA and 3.8 WAR among all other starting pitchers. To use your catchphrase, "These are FACTS".

Let's look at the potential matchups, after Severino. Note: this all assumes they play in the Wild Card, thus losing the Severino matchup

Versus Boston- Sabathia/ Sale, Tanaka/ Porcello, Gray/ Price. This remains likely their only hope.

Versus Cleveland- Sabathia/ Kluber, Tanaka/ Bauer, Gray/ Carrasco. They are disadvantaged in all three matchups, significantly.

Versus Houston- Sabathia/ Verlander, Tanaka/ Cole, Gray/ Keuchel. Double the advantage the Indians had.

Again, this assumes the Yankees make it out of the Wild Card game. Because standing pat will lose them the division.

And sub in some rookie for Gray if you want. It won't matter. They need an actual, legitimate starter to help out. And that will come at a price where teams recognize how desperate they are. Even a J. A. Happ rental will come at a very hefty price.


14.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 02:31:42
According to McCovey Chronicles-don't count out Mad Bum trade. They are NOT A YANKEE website. Here'a another fact-Yanks' 2-5 have winning record against Bos, Hous Cleve and Seattle. Tanaka and CC haven't lost to any of those teams this year. FACT! How could they possibly win with this staff? Same staff went to 7 games in ALCS. As for matchups-the fact that you included Price in your matchups show you don't know anything. Price will not be pitching against Yanks. After that, I couldn't stop laughing to look at your other matchups. Remember, playoffs are mostly decided by bullpens anyway. Another thing-you keep saying Yanks won't win division. If Yanks win div, will you say you were wrong and not comment on any posts for month. Doubt it. BTW-how's Quintana doing? You still think he's a Top 10-15 SP?


15.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 03:13:09
Stat- I should have known better than to take your stats at face value. Yankee starters not named Severino have combined 4.52 ERA. NOT 4.98. MLB. com stats. Ask someone to help with the math. Bosox starters other than Sale have 4.25 ERA. Would you rather have staff with 4.52 ERA starters and Yankee bullpen OR 4.25 starter ERA and Bosox bullpen? Before you answer-remember relievers accounted for more wins in AL postseason than starters.


16.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 09:14:02
McCovey Chronicles is a fan site. Grant Brisbee hasn’t been granted interviews or media access for years now and he’s not even Twitter verified anymore.

Take whatever he says and ignore it. He’s not a journalist with access to the team.

I’ll do that bet, only if you promise to never post here ever should the Red Sox win the division. I think that’s fair.

As for the math, sorry. I counted a couple non-starts from a few guys. That still ranks them 23rd inERA and WAR if not for Severino carrying that rotation. That’s only three places better than I originally had. Quit acting like they are fine. They really aren’t.


17.) 12 Jul 2018
12 Jul 2018 09:33:10
How does including Price show that I don’t know anything? Cora has been adamant about using him as a starter. Will he start in the postseason? I don’t know. But he’s been a staple in that rotation. It’s not an absurd suggestion. And certainly not one that would suggest someone is clueless. You’re grasping for straws now.

Anyway, this is the last I’m commenting to you. You have the maturity of a blade of grass and you seem to misunderstand any level of nuance. You also have no clue how to source information or seek out reliable information (i. e. confusing a fan site as an actual news source) . And yet you keep insulting me as though you’re some expert. It’s ironic.

Right now, you’ve caught me on a math error and found a bad prediction I made last year (while I’m flattered I take up space in your memory, it’s also extremely creepy) . You seem to know very little outside your beloved Yankees.

So I’ll let you continue to play pocket pool to their prospect list and we’ll move on. Capeesh?


18.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 13:54:47
The more you post, the more you show you don't know. from Quintana to Gray-you prove it constantly. It's not a math error I caught you on-it's making up rubbish to support your misguided opinions. Your are a whiny little crybaby who doesn't like to be told they're wrong. Well you are! If this hurts your feelings-too bad. For someone who has stat in their handle, how can you make an such a math error. JOKE! BTW-Yanks have 2nd best staff ERA in league. And BAA. And WHIP. Have you ever agreed with another's post? That's why I remember and only respond to you. You are such a fool.


19.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 17:23:00
"Making up rubbish to support your misguided opinions"

Kind of like making up the Bumgarner asking price? Interesting.

"Your are a whiny little crybaby who doesn't like to be told they're wrong. "

It's "YOU'RE". For someone telling me I'm constantly wrong, you'd serve well to check your grammar. FOOL.

"For someone who has stat in their handle, how can you make an such a math error. "

God forbid anyone ever make an error. Like a spelling error. Or calling an SB Nation website journalism. Geez, Mitch, you're so perfect.

I also forgot that a 4.52 ERA is so beyond stellar. Where do I line up to vote Sonny Gray for Cy Young?

My bad, Mitch. You're always right. And because you're always right, I'm sure you can celebrate in October after the Yankees get eliminated with a 3.8 WAR post-ace staff.


20.) 13 Jul 2018
13 Jul 2018 17:42:29
For what it's worth, the Yankee's "second-best ERA" pertains to their bullpen and rotation with Severino. The discussion has been the rotation after Severino, not Johnny Wholestaff. Try to keep up.

As for agreeing with other posts, I have. Ask Batman, ask others. More often than not, when I disagree, I usually share why. I do my best to not insult people, but often the disagreement needs to be stern to get a point across. But finding agreement with folks on this site is rare, in large part to the massive homers like yourself.

Also, your insults don't hurt my feelings. They just show you aren't worth anyone's time. Most folks have rightly ignored you, because you're a little child who thinks insulting someone makes you more right.

Here's my challenge, it's two-fold:

1) Post 5 posts about a team aside from the Yankees. Show us you know about other teams. You can't insult someone when you do nothing to prove yourself.

2) Go 10 posts without calling someone a "fool" a "joke" or claiming "you don't know anything".

Earn some credit on here. Because everyone ignores you. I'm literally the only person who even responds to you, and even I have to question if I should, but I fear for your personal safety if everyone ignores you. I'm helping you, don't insult me.


21.) 19 Jul 2018
19 Jul 2018 22:13:44
"Your" is a typographical error- not grammatical. Read it again-have someone help you with it.
1-I told you Quintana isn't a Top 10-15 SP. I am right. You are wrong. This is not about the Yankees. Maybe you thinking he is shows that you are the "homer. "
2-I challenge you to show one time I have called someone a "joke' or "you don't know anything. " You can't. It's just you that I have a problem with. You represent as a knowledgable fan-you don't know shit.
Again-show me 1 time you agreed with an original post.
For what it's worth-the Yanks will be pitching their whole staff during playoffs-not just Severino. Try to keep up.
Bullpens decide more playoff games than not. Yanks have best bullpen in baseball. They are 57-2 when leading after 6 innings. These are FACTS. I give you facts-you give me "most scouts still prefer Moncada over Torres. " Still waiting for any proof of where you got that from.
I have cited many times where I've gotten my info from-Ken Rosenthal, Jon Heyman, Buster Olney etc. Then you post they don't know anything. When you called me a homer and I cited McCovey chronicle you had problem with that too. No, you know better-you fool.
One more thing. I stated that Yanks will still win division. I wanted to bet on it. After Sox opened up 4.5 game lead-you decided that it should be "not posting forever. " Even with that deficit, I will still take that bet for 1 month. Will you? Not having what you consider human interaction for a month would probably kill you.