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23 Nov 2017 19:35:56
Angels/Cubs

Bridwell/Bedrosian for Baez

The Cubs a nice young rotation piece who broke out last year with 5 more years of control and a young promising bullpen option with 4 years of control, filling two holes on the roster and Happ or Zobrist could slip right into 2B.

The Angels pair Baez with Simmons up the middle to form a great double play duo for years to come. Baez also fits the "Trout timeline" and the Angels are able to use their $$$ elsewhere instead of paying for an overpriced, aging 2B in FA or a different trade.

AngelsHalo

1.) 24 Nov 2017 13:28:21
The Cubs won't give up Baez unless it's for a higher profile pitcher.


2.) 24 Nov 2017 18:12:46
They'll trade Schwarber or Russell before they trade Baez.


 

 

03 Dec 2016 16:54:14
Jonathan Villar/ Matt Garza for Jaime Barria/ Nate Smith/ Joe Gatto/ Roberto Baldoquin

Why for Angels? They get their 2B for now and the future and a dynamic lead off man in Villar. He's also a switch hitter which will help LAA's RH heavy lineup and his defense should grade out much better with a move the 2B. Garza gives them more rotation depth which Eppler is obviously looking for.

Why for MIL? They get rid of Garza's contract, get 4 decent prospects and they already have Perez, Arcia, and Gennett around the infield.

AngelsHalo

1.) 03 Dec 2016 17:01:22
Angels definitely don't want to lose the prospects they barely have.


2.) 03 Dec 2016 17:43:16
Why would the Brewers take this deal?


3.) 03 Dec 2016 19:34:36
I think the Brew Crew would get better for Villar.


 

 

23 Nov 2016 19:27:09
Matt Shoemaker/ Cam Bedrosian for Pablo Sandoval / Yoan Moncada

Why for LAA? They get the #1 prospect in all of baseball to pair with Trout for years to come and fill their 2B hole.

Why for BOS? They get a solid low cost starter controlled for 4 more years, and high end reliever for 5 more years of team control and they get rid of Panda'S contract. Losing Moncada would hurt but they are very high on Devers to take over 3B, Pedroia is signed long term at 2B and their OF is set.

AngelsHalo

1.) 23 Nov 2016 19:56:23
It makes some sense, but if Boston won't trade Moncada for Chris Sale, there is no way they'd trade him for Bedrosian and Shoemaker.


2.) 23 Nov 2016 20:09:02
For goodness sakes, be realistic. Dombroski hangs up the phone laughing from hearing this ridiculous proposal. Bedrosian doesn't yet have a track record and Shoemaker is up and down. Moncada is one of the top prospects in all of baseball, nothing about this trade says Moncada should be a part of it. Shoemaker for Sandoval would make more sense but still wouldn't be good.


3.) 23 Nov 2016 22:41:31
please stop this nonsense

shoemaker isn't worth moncada or anyone like him.


4.) 23 Nov 2016 22:58:32
You do realize Shoemaker had a 3.3 WAR last year (24th amongst all MLB pitchers. he's projected to be above 3 again next year. With 4 arbitration elligible years left (let's say about $30 million total) and 1 WAR = $8 million in surplus value. Shoemaker should have about $66 million surplus value before he reaches free agency.

Sandoval on the other hand has been below replacement level each of the last 2 seasons with the Red Sox. Fangraphs has a 1 WAR projection for Sandoval for 2017. With $58 million due to Sandoval over the next 3 years including his buyout, he has about $34 million in negative value.

So tell me how that adds up?


5.) 23 Nov 2016 23:08:27
Yoan Moncoda is going to be one the next best players in the league, Shoemaker is a 3rd starter at best and Bedrosian is not bad but no way.


6.) 24 Nov 2016 00:16:52
Okay this needs to be said by an Angels fan, CAM IS NOT THAT VALUABLE OF A PIECE! HE IS NO WAY ABLE TO GET THE NUMBER 1 PROSPECT IN THE GAME OR EVEN THE 100th PROSPECT! He had like 2 good months and then injured, he isn't on the level of someone like Miller, Chapman, or Britton who could command a good return. He is young though so instead of trading him now, let the guy develop with the team and who knows maybe he could reach that potential, but as of now, no team in baseball is dumb enough to give their best prospect for a pitcher who had two good months!


7.) 24 Nov 2016 01:43:57
Shoemaker should be working in a shoe factory. Dude is the No. 5 SP on a bad team that needs pitching.


8.) 24 Nov 2016 01:48:26
Angels fans be making trades like Bedrosian is the greatest reliever of all time.

Its beyond ridiculous, if you guys value him so highly why trade? he's apparently the greatest thing since Mo.


9.) 24 Nov 2016 06:35:35
Red Soxs guy, Shoemakers numbers were horrific before he was sent down, once he was up again, he was un hittable, he even pitched better than your boy David Price. With the way he pitched after his call up, he's way better than a number 5, if he can continue that into next season, the Angels will have a great arm to turn to.


10.) 24 Nov 2016 13:48:37
having value is one thing, being worth the top prospect in baseball is another. u weirdos need to get real.


11.) 24 Nov 2016 13:51:53
Then keep the guy. You think he's great, keep him. I think Shoe is crap, and don't want him.


12.) 24 Nov 2016 17:06:07
I'm not saying trade him, I'm just pointing out the fact he is much better than a number 5 starter as u stated earlier, this trade is garbage.


 

 

23 Nov 2016 04:47:56
This is a bit of an outside-the-box idea and I bet my fellow Angel fans won't like this but hear me out.

Andrelton Simmons for Josh Harrison/ Austin Meadows/ Kevin Newman

Why for LAA? Let's face it. The Angels need to aim for 2018-19 and do a quick rebuild with players with tons of potential in their early 20s. Here Meadows and Newman could be two future cogs for years to come. Harrison solves their 2B problem Andre they can bring back Aybar at SS until Newman is ready.

Why for PIT? They should be contenders. This deal could put them into that category without adding any $$ to their payroll. Simmons and Harrison have almost identical salaries. It would also not be smart to sell low on McCutchen.

AngelsHalo

1.) 23 Nov 2016 05:50:58
No. Just no.


2.) 23 Nov 2016 14:47:16
Simmons is better than Jordy Mercer with the glove. That's it. Otherwise, Mercer is better, and is fine for the Bucs.


 

 

21 Nov 2016 20:57:29
Angels Get: Bellinger/ Salazar/ Yandy Diaz
Angels Give: Calhoun/ Escobar/ Cron

The Angels get a little younger, get much-needed pitching and a top prospect. I would see them signing Ann Adam Lind-type after this.

Dodgers Get: Calhoun/ Escobar
Dodgers Give: Bellinger/ Puig

The Dodgers fill two of their biggest holes and get one of the most underrated players in the game in Calhoun.

Indians Get: Puig/ Cron
Indians Give: Salazar/ Yandy Diaz

The Indians get the 1B and OF they need who are both under control for a while and are still young and have the chance to get even better.

AngelsHalo

1.) 21 Nov 2016 21:53:02
Hmm. I looked at it. Looked at it again. Makes sense for everyone. Might need tweaking, but it is plausible.


2.) 22 Nov 2016 01:40:08
salazar is worth more than puig.


3.) 22 Nov 2016 01:43:19
The Angels aren't trading Calhoun period.


4.) 22 Nov 2016 11:48:56
Agreed but take out Calhune and add someone else maybe a prospect instead and this deal could still work.


 

 

 

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20 Nov 2017 02:56:38
Javy Baez for Parker Bridwell/Cam Bedrosian

Why for Cubs?
They get two bright young pitchers with 4 and 5 years on control respectively to fill their biggest needs and they still have Zobrist and Happ at 2B.

Why for Angels?
They get their long term answer at 2B who would provide a great double play partner with Simmons. Plus they still would have Richards, Heaney, Skaggs, Shoemaker, Ramirez, Tropeano, etc in their rotation plus they still would have money to spend.

AngelsHalo

1.) 20 Nov 2017 08:21:16
Doubt the Cubs would do it. They likely believe they can get a better pitcher for Baez.


2.) 18 Dec 2017 01:43:48
Baez is worth more than those two combined.


 

 

04 Jan 2016 23:45:01
Huston Street/ Hector Santiago for Dalton Pompey/ Devon Travis

Why for Angels? They fill their two biggest holes in their lineup with young promising players who will hit their prime around the same time as Mike Trout. They also save ~$13 million to create some more more under the luxury tax to make other moves.

Why for Blue Jays? They strengthen their pitching both in the rotation and in the bullpen at a minimal cost. Street and Osuna would make a strong back end of the bullpen and would allow Sanchez to move into the rotation if needed. Santiago would bring a low cost starter to a rotation that lacks punch outside of Stroman.

AngelsHalo

1.) 05 Jan 2016 04:28:31
This is awful why would the Blue Jays give up 2 two young players for especially when there rotation is set and they have a closer.


2.) 05 Jan 2016 14:03:27
Exactly.


 

 

16 Aug 2015 01:18:45
Offseason Deal: LAA/MIL

CJ Wilson for Matt Garza/Adam Lind

Why for Angels? They add talent while not going into the luxury tax. They hope Lind can add a spark to the offense and be the LH to protect Pujols batting 5th. They hope Garza can bounce back to form after the worst season of his career.

Why for Brewers? They save $ long term by getting out from under Garza's contract and Wilson had actually pitched pretty well this year with a sub-4 ERA and only has one year left on his contract.

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23 Nov 2017 19:29:02
I’d still rather have Skaggs and Valbuena at 3B for the Angels than give up Skaggs+ for Solarte.

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23 Nov 2017 19:26:23
From an Angels POV, I say yes to the addition of Mejia and Jahmai Jones in that deal.

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22 Nov 2017 21:02:29
Overpay for Kipnis and the Angels don’t have enough to get Freeman (if he’s even available in the first place) .

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23 Nov 2016 22:58:32
You do realize Shoemaker had a 3.3 WAR last year (24th amongst all MLB pitchers. he's projected to be above 3 again next year. With 4 arbitration elligible years left (let's say about $30 million total) and 1 WAR = $8 million in surplus value. Shoemaker should have about $66 million surplus value before he reaches free agency.

Sandoval on the other hand has been below replacement level each of the last 2 seasons with the Red Sox. Fangraphs has a 1 WAR projection for Sandoval for 2017. With $58 million due to Sandoval over the next 3 years including his buyout, he has about $34 million in negative value.

So tell me how that adds up?

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23 Nov 2016 01:20:25
I'm sure other teams will line up to take Verlander even with his contract in this market if this is all it would take. My guess is the Tigers would ask for this return for Kinsler only.

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