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08 Dec 2017 03:06:39
So, I'll be the first one to admit that this is not very good... but I would like to get back into this so I was curious what you guys would do different so I can get a better grasp on what works and doesn't.

Pirates Off-Season

Seung-Hwan Oh 1 year 3 million
Jaime Garcia 2 year 16 million
Yunel Escobar 1 year 4 million

Pirates get Jake Odorizzi
Ray's get Tyler Glasnow & Kevin Kramer

Pirates get Jurickson Profar
Rangers get David Freeze

Pirates get Nate Jones
White Sox get Ivan Nova

1 - Gerrit Cole
2 - Jameson Taillon
3 - Jake Odorizzi
4 - Jaime Garcia
5 - Trevor Williams

CL - Felipe Rivers
SU - George Kontos
SU - Nate Jones
MR - Daniel Hudson
MR - Seung-Hwan Oh
MR - Chad Kuhl
MR - Steven Brault

C - Francisco Cervelli
1B - Josh Bell
2B - Josh Harrison
3B - Yunel Escobar
SS - Jordy Mercer
LF - Starling Marte
CF - Andrew McCutchen
RF - Gregory Polanco

Jurickson Profar
Elias Diaz
Sean Rodriguez
Jose Osuna
Adam Frazier

I realize that the trades are pretty bad, although I think the Odorizzi one is decent. What should change?


1.) 08 Dec 2017 16:30:03
I think the Odorizzi trade is the worst of all of these. The Pirates should not give up so quickly on Glasnow.

2.) 08 Dec 2017 17:29:29
Really? I thought that was by far the best trade. I think Glasnow could be good but not in Pittsburgh, I think he needs a change in scenery. Glasnow had no path to the rotation and is on the outside looking in to even make the bullpen. Has value because of his prospect history but has been horrendous in the majors.

3.) 09 Dec 2017 01:34:16
If Nate Jones can stay healthy, he has the upside of being a lockdown 8th inning guy that consistently hits triple digits with a wipeout slider. Not a chance the Sox give up on him for a guy like Ivan Nova, who is only controlled through 2019 and hasn't even been that great, especially with what solid relievers get at the deadline these days.



17 Nov 2017 03:39:46
Pirates get RP Miguel Castro
Orioles get SP Ivan Nova and 2B/SS Kevin Kramer

I'm not really sure if this would work but the Orioles don't seem to want to tear down and think they could contend. Their rotation is a mess and they have a surplus of decent middle relievers. Pirates throw in Kramer to try and get the Orioles to pay the contract of Nova and Castro would be the primary middle reliever for the Pirates. Maybe add a lower prospect or cash going to the Orioles.




03 Feb 2017 02:19:35
I wrote down a handful of trades from this site and a few like it from about a year ago, I think it'll be interesting to see how the trades that were proposed a while ago stack up today

Braves get Jackie Bradley Jr., Brock Holt, and Henry Owens
Red Sox get Julio Tehran

Marlins get Roenis Elias
Mariners get Marcell Ozuna

Orioles get Nick Markakis and 6 MM
Braves get Mike Wright, Drew Dosch, and Parker Bridwell

Once again, these are not my ideas nor I agree with all of them I just thought it would be interesting to look back on them. I have some more from further back so if you like this I will post more.


1.) 03 Feb 2017 04:19:37
Red Sox don't need another starter, the Marlins can get more and better for Elias, who i believe is with Boston now. And i don't believe Markakis would bring 3 prospects back.

2.) 03 Feb 2017 05:11:31
I'm curious, do you think Roenis Elias is spectacular, or think that Marcell Ozuna is terrible? I can't see any justification for that trade.

3.) 03 Feb 2017 05:13:34
Never mind. I'm a doofus and skipped right to the trades. I'll be sure to read the posts in full from here on out.

4.) 03 Feb 2017 15:40:16
Should I post more of these?

5.) 03 Feb 2017 17:14:15
Yes. This is awesome.

6.) 03 Feb 2017 18:15:51
Now that I understand what you're doing, yes. It's kind of interesting to see what people thought a year ago.

7.) 03 Feb 2017 22:35:32
Also think that a year ago these were considered fair. The Braves signed/ traded for so many starters this offseason that Taherahn isn't even gaurenteed a spot anymore.

8.) 04 Feb 2017 00:34:41
CS16, Julio Teheran is the ace of the braves pitching staff.

And he has been the ace since 2014. So what do you mean by he isn't guaranteed a spot anymore?

9.) 04 Feb 2017 01:55:30
Teheran is guaranteed a spot. Not sure what planet you're on.

10.) 04 Feb 2017 02:52:12
Umm, Teheran is still their best pitcher.

11.) 04 Feb 2017 19:08:07
Elias is with Boston.

12.) 04 Feb 2017 19:08:07
Elias is with Boston.



29 Dec 2016 04:57:11
Pirates get Brian Dozier
Blue Jays get Andrew McCutchen
Twins get T. J. Zuech, Vladimir Guerro Jr., and Reese McGuire.


1.) 29 Dec 2016 05:34:05
I don't think this is very good but I think that it is an interesting start, this isn't meant to be an actual trade so much as a starting point.

2.) 29 Dec 2016 05:38:52
This is really bad.

The Twins are demanding MORE than Jose De Leon in talks for Brian Dozier. None of the guys going to them are worth as much as De Leon.

3.) 29 Dec 2016 15:09:14
Jay's will not trade Guerrero Jr. To get a couple years of McCutchen guaranteed!

Pompey or Alford but not Guerrero.

4.) 29 Dec 2016 21:16:56
Huskers I wasn't saying this could happen I was merely stating I could be a starting point.

5.) 29 Dec 2016 22:26:06
No where in your original post did you say it was a starting point.

6.) 29 Dec 2016 23:13:10
Look at the comment right below it.

7.) 29 Dec 2016 23:40:52
Normally, on a starting point, you at least try to add the good players, then you add in the fluff. You gave Minnesota a bunch of fluff to start with.

8.) 30 Dec 2016 14:47:35
No way from T. O
Jays management have stated on multiple occasions that they want to first rebuild the farm system. Getting rid of the top prospects for 2 years of a player won't help.

9.) 30 Dec 2016 15:14:46
If the Blue Jays had to give up 3 marginal prospects to get 2 years of McCutchen, you better believe they would go for it, without thinking.

Guerrero isn't even 18 yet. There is still so much to happen before he begins to make an impact in the game. In fact, his ETA is 2021. Trust me, they aren't going to be hesitant to move long-away assets for immediate upgrades.

10.) 30 Dec 2016 16:55:03
They will definitely give 3 marginal prospects for 2 years of McCutchen.

Guerrero will not be one of them. They paid 3.9mil for him and they are expecting big things from him. Obviously!

Their is a reason baseball America now has him as the Jay's top prospects already!

All that being said, I believe the Pirates are looking for a ready now prospect so all this is moot!



27 Dec 2016 04:06:17
Pirates get - Seth Lugo and Steven Matz
Mets get - Andrew McCutchen

Pirates get - Jose Quintana
White Sox get - Kevin Newman, Elias Diaz, Clay Holmes, and Tyler Glasnow

Pirates get - J. B. Woodman, Max Pentecost, and Ryan McBroom
Blue Jays get - Tony Watson and Wade LeBlanc

Pirates sign Mike Napoli 2 years 24 million.


1.) 27 Dec 2016 06:54:57
IMO Quintana gets more but that could pass depending on what the white Sox access his value as.

2.) 27 Dec 2016 14:04:58
I think the Mets trade is plausible, but the Quintana trade is not nearly enough, and I don't think the Bucs move Watson for that package either.




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20 Dec 2016 22:55:48
Pirates Off-Season

Sign Rubby De La Rosa for 2 years at 6 million (total)

Sign Tyson Ross for 2 years at 22 million (total) 2018 is an option

Sign Dominic Brown to a minors deal

Trade Tony Watson to Toronto for Joe Biagini, Patrick Murphy (Blue Jays 19), and Harold Ramirez (Blue Jays 5)

Trade John Jaso to Cleveland for LHP Luis Lugo (Indians 27)

Rotation - Gerrit Cole, Jameson Taillon, Tyson Ross, Chad Kuhl, Drew Hutchison

Bullpen - Felipe Rivero, Daniel Hudson, Juan Nicasio, Antonio Bastardo, A. J. Schugel, Joe Biagini, Rubby De La Rosa

Lineup - 2B Josh Harrison, 1B Josh Bell, CF Starling Marte, 3B Jung-ho Kang, RF Andrew McCutchen, LF Gregory Polanco, C Francisco Cervelli, SS Jordy Mercer

Bench - Chris Stewart, Alen Hanson, David Freese, Dominic Brown, Adam Frazier.


1.) 20 Dec 2016 23:08:01
How many times are you going to post this?

2.) 20 Dec 2016 23:48:57
This is the second time I've posted anything like this and I changed it up.

3.) 21 Dec 2016 03:12:11
Don't worry BuccoFan, Huskers will try and criticize everyone and everything he possibly can.

4.) 21 Dec 2016 05:13:07
I guess it was only twice. It's just weird your fascination with Domonic Brown. He hasn't played for a season and a half and hasn't been good for about 3.

There are about 100 other guys to sign on minor league deals I would pick before Brown. Maybe 500.

5.) 23 Dec 2016 05:36:03
Bucs just traded ramirez to the jays at the deadline. I doubt they want him back.



12 Mar 2016 03:40:00
Today the Pirates signed David Freese to a 1-year 3-million dollar contract. They have said that he will be the starting third baseman until Jung-Ho Kang is healthy then will be the right handed half of the first base platoon. With the signing of Matt Joyce last week this and Josh Bell coming up this leaves Michael Morse without a meaningful role while making almost 9 million dollars. What are some potential trades that the Pirates could swing evolving Morse?


1.) 13 Mar 2016 18:19:15
I think they should just release him since he is old and overrated in my opinion, I men they could swing him for a PTBNL or cash or a low level prospect that doesn't have a good chance of making it to the bigs, but I know for a fact that the Pirates will get something of little to no value for him, or they might just chose to release him.




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13 Dec 2017 01:32:06
As a pirates fan I would take this but I don't think the Yankees would give up that much.




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13 Dec 2017 01:31:23
The Pirates trade just isn't good. Needs to make sense for both teams in principle and in value.




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12 Dec 2017 15:36:52
Colome is worth more than just Dahl.




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11 Dec 2017 21:20:18
If you're referring to the return or lack there of for Stanton, that is has a completely different set of circumstances. Orioles have leverage unlike the Marlins. The Orioles are competent unlike the Marlins. Machado doesn't have an albatross contract or a no trade clause forcing the Orioles to take a lesser deal. It was publicly know that both sides didn't want anything to do with each other anymore so that along with a few hundred million dollars kept and Stanton himself knocking out the competition. They aren't comparable in the slightest.




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11 Dec 2017 17:07:32
This is a joke, right? If not the Machado trade in probably the worst thing I've seen on this site. On the Darvish contract though, I think he'll get more but I could see it happening. The Machado thing is just unbelievably bad.





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