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13 Jul 2017 16:44:10
ChiSox get: Eloy Jimenez, Dylan Cease, Matt Rose, Bryant Flete.

Cubs Get: Jose Quintana

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1.) 13 Jul 2017 16:52:19
What do we think boys?


2.) 13 Jul 2017 16:53:42
Looks like a great deal to me, they should do that! (I'm joking. I saw it happened. )


3.) 13 Jul 2017 17:03:07
Yeah wasn't predicting this haha. More of a report and hoping to see what everyone thought.


4.) 13 Jul 2017 17:31:38
Sources are telling me the same thing you posted good job whered you get the scoop from? Seems a win for both sides in my opinion.


5.) 13 Jul 2017 17:42:54
That's a big haul for a mediocre pitcher.

Make me think maybe Mets should trade deGrom to Houston (obviously they'd need to get a better haul than Quintanilla) .


6.) 13 Jul 2017 18:50:41
Bryant Flete is a Hall of Famer.


7.) 13 Jul 2017 18:59:33
Dan, you clearly don't watch much baseball other than whoever you root for. Quintana is good pitcher, he has been on some very bad White Sox teams and has been a good pitcher.


8.) 14 Jul 2017 17:55:27
It'll be interesting to see how and what the Cubs do moving forward, beyond 2017.

They have traded away a large glut of the organizational depth they have, and now have to bank that all these called up players are the real deal. (I think they will see some total busts) .

Obviously, adding controllable pitching is a smart move considering they lose Arrieta and Lackey. But the cost of 4 years of Arrieta this offseason is cheaper than Quintana's contract w/ o their top 2 prospects (in positions they don't have much depth) .


 

 

29 May 2017 15:23:11
Heard this on a Chicago radio station:

Royals Get: Albert Almora, Jeimer Candelario, Dylan Cease

Cubs Get: Danny Duffy, Lorenzo Cain

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1.) 29 May 2017 16:48:21
Danny Duffy is going to cost teams a lot more.


2.) 30 May 2017 01:14:52
Duffy isn't going anywhere except to the trainer's room; he just landed on the DL.


3.) 30 May 2017 18:42:04
Yeah this trade is irrelevant now with him on the DL but just thought it would've been interesting as his talent/ contract is exactly what the cubs need along with a leadoff/ cf type in Cain. KC getting back a potential starting CF and 1b in preparation for Hosmer to leave, and a nice young arm in Cease.


4.) 30 May 2017 23:27:09
I like the basics of the trade. Duffy's injury ends this one. But, Cain could still be dealt; the two sides have made a few deals, including the Wade Davis-Jorge Soler trade.


 

 

19 May 2017 16:00:45
Nats Get: David Robertson, Nate Jones

ChiSox Get: Juan Soto (Organization's #3) and Luis Garcia (Organization's #9)

Gives the cats a huge boost in the bullpen for this year and next year. They keep Fedde, Robles and Kieboom

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1.) 23 May 2017 15:46:46
What a rip off for the White Sox. Juan Soto maybe, but they don't need Garcia. It's been hard for White Sox to work out a trade with just Robertson.


 

 

04 Jan 2017 16:29:54
Dodgers Get: Ian Kinsler

Tigers Get: Yusniel Diaz, Jacob Rhame.

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1.) 04 Jan 2017 17:58:44
I think the Dodgers are more likely to get Dozier from the Twins.


2.) 05 Jan 2017 01:35:05
Bats, I do too, but if the Twins keep insisting on more than DeLeon and a fringe prospect or two, LA will talk with the Tigers more about Kinsler.


3.) 05 Jan 2017 14:42:18
Red Sox Guy, Exactly my thought process.

Especially since it seems like the dodgers are the only team in talks for him right now, its awfully hard to have leverage in a trade with only one potential partner. I think twins might get cold feet.


 

 

25 Dec 2016 16:28:05
Braves Get: Quintana

ChiSox Get: Albies, Newcomb, Wentz, Herbert.

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1.) 25 Dec 2016 20:35:52
Toss in Todd Frazier from CWS, and another hitter from the Braves' system, and let's get it done.


2.) 26 Dec 2016 15:14:12
I'd rather just take out Herbert. Not sure Todd-Father is a good fit with Atlanta just looking at his contract. I think ChiSox are also trying to sell assets individually.


3.) 27 Dec 2016 14:09:21
Braves are opening in a new stadium this year; they would love to provide at least the illusion that they are contenders.


 

 

 

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31 Jul 2017 17:14:27
Undoubtedly the least productive morning I've had at work since last July 31.

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11 May 2017 12:58:32
Cubs Get: Jose Quintana, Nate Jones

White Sox Get: Eloy Jimenez, Ian Happ, Jose Paulino, Preston Morrison

Might seem like a lot of an asking price but hear me out:

Cubs have an absolute log jam in their middle infield for the next 3 years with Zobrist on contract and Baez likely to be his heir apparent with addy locking down SS making Happ expendable (not less valuable, but expendable).
Eloy Jimenez is a corner outfielder which is also another spot where Jay Hay is signed for the next 6 years (they rarely play him in center) and Kyle is in left. Even Bryant and Zobrist get corner outfield roles as well. Once again, making it tough to see Eloy contributing to this team more than 30-40 games a year (similar to Soler).

They Get:
Q- cost control pitcher signed through 2020 who gives them leverage over Arietta this offseason and is likely the Ace as Lester Ages

Nate Jones- Top tier set-up man signed through 2019.

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1.) 18 May 2017 19:49:51
The Cubs seem more interested in letting the chips fall where they may.

Besides, if there's a team that loves positional flexibility, it's the Cubs. They'd rather use multiple guys in super-utility roles and get them 120-130 games than move them simply because they foresee a log-jam.

Some of those players will fizzle, some will get hurt. Some will change positions. It would be short-sighted to trade that depth for pitching when they can just sign a player in the winter.


2.) 21 May 2017 01:53:06
@thestatbook, fair point for sure about the super-utility roles. To your point nearly half of their roster can player both infield and outfield. And my point is not that they feel they HAVE to part ways because of a log jam, but rather that it might make parting ways with talents like Happ and Jimenez a bit easier considering you have players like Baez, Russell, Schwarber (who they seem committed to), and Heyward locked up at those positions.

It will be interesting to see how much long term money they want to invest in SP this offseason tho. Come 2020 they're going to have to lock up A LOT of their roster. I. E. Bryant, Russell, Schwarber, Contreras, Rizzo, Baez.


 

 

21 Jan 2017 15:13:06
Every pitcher in the MLB became a free agent. Yet they're only willing to sign a one year deal. You're a GM. What's your top 10 big board look like?

Me:

1) Kershaw
2) Scherzer
3) Bumgarner
4) Sale
5) Syndergaard
6) Kluber
7) Verlander
8) Hendricks
9) Cueto
10) Porcello

*I think you could make an argument for putting 2-6 in any order

*Hendricks is great but not in that top group until he can consistently pitch into the 7th

*Honorable mentions: Tanaka, Lester, Quintana, Roark, Sanchez

DrakeLarocheFan1

1.) 22 Jan 2017 16:49:11
What about Price


2.) 22 Jan 2017 20:56:01
He's very good no doubt. Probably should've been mentioned in honorable mentions but other than innings (which is very valuable don't get me wrong) he didn't rank top 10 or even 20 in almost any of the advanced stats last year. Even his WHIP, ERA and FIP were worst of his career since 09.


3.) 23 Jan 2017 00:27:21
1. MadBum
2. Kershaw
3. Scherzer
4. Syndergaard
5. Sale
6. Kluber
7. Archer
8. Arrieta
9. Martinez
10. Tillman

Madbum above Kershaw, mainly because of playoffs, both are great in regular season but Madbum is that guy I know can dominate in the playoffs.

Archer he's very very good just on a really really bad team.

Martinez one of the best young pitchers

Tillman has dominated the AL East no doubt he'd do the same in any other divison


4.) 24 Jan 2017 05:37:54
I love Bumgarner as much as the next guy, but you can't possibly believe he's better than Kershaw.


5.) 25 Jan 2017 01:24:50
Tillman is not even in the top 20.

No one is better than Kershaw right now. I don't want to hear anything it is not a question.

Archer is a very good pitcher but as of right now he is not in the top 10.

Aaron Sanchez won the AL ERA title at the age of 24 in his first full season starting.

Cueto has to be up there. No question


6.) 25 Jan 2017 15:24:07
Zammer, what's your top 10 looking like?


7.) 25 Jan 2017 19:52:35
Tillman is one of the best he's had a era of 3.50 or lower in the past 5 out of 6 seasons I believe and he's pitching in the AL East the dude is a stud.

If Archer actually had a good team behind him I'd say he has the potential to be the third best starter

MadBum Kershaw debate, I love Kershaw but both are great in regular season but MadBum is flat out dominate in postseason. Same thing with Archer is Giants scored more he'd be putting up Kershaw numbers


8.) 25 Jan 2017 22:04:42
Tillman isn't even the best pitcher on his own team.


9.) 25 Jan 2017 23:57:54
Kershaw
Scherzer
Synergaard
MadBum
Verlander
Kluber
Sale
Cueto
Martinez
Sanchez

If i was only to sign 1 of them to a one year deal, Kershaw is number 1 no doubt. I chose Synergaard over MadBum because i feel there is still improvement with Synergaard while MadBum is going to be consistently the same. The last 2 picks in Sanchez and Martinez are 2 really young pitchers who have already dominated and i expect them to take it to the next level


10.) 26 Jan 2017 01:50:36
Verlander over Kluber and Sale?


11.) 26 Jan 2017 02:45:04
Zammer, are you a Blue Jays fan? As a Canadien, it's the only way I can see someone putting Sanchez in the top 10. He's not better than Arrieta, Lester, or even deGrom.


12.) 26 Jan 2017 04:12:53
Verlander should have won the AL Cy Young over Porcello


13.) 26 Jan 2017 04:15:54
Tillman has had an ERA under 3.50 twice in the last 2 seasons and 1 of those seasons he only started 15 games. He has a career ERA of 4.15. He hasn't dominated the AL East


14.) 26 Jan 2017 12:44:20
Fair enough, agree to disagree about Verlander.

But exposfan, Jake is not a top 10 pitcher, probably not top 15 imo. I'd take Sanchez over him rn as well. He had an amazing run for about 20 games and started the season strong but after that has come down to earth. Era was above 4 closing out this season and failed to hit 200 innings.


15.) 26 Jan 2017 19:48:17
This is about taking a pitcher on a 1 year deal. Lester is one of the top 10 in the game but he has a ton of innings on his arm and is on the wrong side of 30. Arietta struggled with control and was not the same dominant self. DeGrom is coming on an injury season where he struggled down the stretch.


16.) 02 Feb 2017 01:24:38
Kershaw
Scherzer
Sale
MadBum
Thor
Kluber
Cueto
Porcello
Verlander
Hendricks


17.) 02 Feb 2017 16:11:19
You could also argue that Sanchez doesn't have enough of a track record to buy in on a 1-year deal.

I think Sanchez is very, very good. I don't think he's anywhere close to a top 10 pitcher.


18.) 03 Feb 2017 22:21:44
Hasnt had a bad season yet and had the lowest in the AL in his first full season as a starter? i'd bet on that any day. Aaron Sanchez is that good man.


19.) 08 Feb 2017 20:07:20
1. Kershaw
2. Scherzer
3. Bumgarner
4. Kluber
5. Lester
6. Sale
7. Verlander
8. Hendricks
9. Cueto
10. Syndergaard

Syndergaard could very likely be higher than this after the season, but he just hasn't played enough yet for me and we will see if he can stay healthy. and I'm sorry, but Mamba you're crazy if you think Tillman is near the top 10 in all of baseball.


20.) 13 Feb 2017 23:38:33
Puts Lester over Sale like a true cubs fan lol.


 

 

 

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18 Nov 2017 12:45:00
1-I think Cobb ends up getting more

2- Just curious as to what Cubs fans think about leadoff. If it's not addressed via FA/ trade, who you got in that spot?

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08 Aug 2017 19:36:26
BigBird, this is the MLB, not the NFL.

Homer Bailey received $105M over 6 years. do I have to elaborate?

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08 Aug 2017 18:51:54
^included in said plethora is Estevan Florial. With Frazier, Judge and Hicks they honestly won't have a need for Schwarber either.

Betances provides much more value to a playoff team than Schwarber anyways.

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01 Aug 2017 00:11:27
Lol, the second I saw this trade go through I knew this post was coming.

Definitely was wrong. Cashman did really well. Package wasn't as bad as most are making it out to be but really thought they'd get a lot more.

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28 Jul 2017 19:05:46
Batman, I agree to an extent. Their farm is loaded, absolutely agree. I think if the deal happened without Fraizer or Torres though, You're looking at at least two of: Chance Adams, Mateo, Sheffield, Florial, Fowler, and a top 15 system guy along with a lottery ticket type of prospect.

My thing is, once teams get desperate, all it takes is for one team to take the bait. I. E. Houston giving up Tucker, Nats giving up Robles, etc. And that trumps anything the Yankees can offer short of Torres or Frazier.

If no one takes the bait though, you have a really fair point.

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18 Nov 2017 13:02:50
WOW, I step away from this site for like 4 months and miss an actual white-sox conversation!

Admittedly I scanned the second half of this conversation bc let's be real, this was a damn novel. (Also didn't see the original argument this stemmed from)

But some thoughts:

1) The Whitesox currently have an elite farm system and yes it is deep.

2) "Fulmer is garbage" is a little bit theatric. His small sample size in the MLB shows some promise, but long term I think he's a really good reliever.

3) "Collins can't hit"- By simply checking stats you're right, but they pretty much started to restructure his swing in the second half this year and he continues to be an on-base machine. The guy probably isn't coming up for a few years so I'm not going to judge his growth by BA quite yet.

4) My two favorite franchises are owned by Jerry Reinsdorf. Calling him a "foolish old man" is truly accurate and is probably an understatement.

5) While I don't think were getting Machado, It's pretty well known jerry loves the Whitesox more than the Bulls and has said he'll get "another one" before his time is up. Yes I know he's been cheap in the past but I wouldn't be surprised if he emptied the pocket books a bit more than usual once we start competing again.

7) Saw something about Don Cooper, C'mon man judging him by team ERA doesn't show the entire picture. That dude is literally the reason we have a ring in 05 and has made the likes of Garbage pitchers into average. He's probably the best asset we have in our organization right now (not kidding) .

Once again not even sure what this argument is about but thought I'd jump in without reading context because its the internet and I'm bored at work.

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15 Sep 2017 17:48:05
If I understand correctly you're planning on assessing who won each trade and you're starting with the Q deal?

The "winner" of this deal isn't going to be known for at least a few years. Quintana is on a lengthy contract and neither Jimenez nor Cease are likely going to be called up until 2019.

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01 Aug 2017 13:14:13
Non as under the radar but I love the Nats picking up Sean Doolittle and Ryan Madson.

Lefties are batting .168 against Doolittle dating back to beginning of 2016. A weapon to use against the: Bellinger, Seager, Pederson, Rizzo, Hayward, Schwarber's of the world.

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21 Jun 2017 05:09:39
@Batman, lol.

I really think it depends a lot on what they think of him internally tho. For fun, If management was confident his numbers are a fluke (Which I doubt) they probably try to sell him for a controlable elite arm. Teheran? Cole? Idk. i'm just throwing names. But i'd probably put his value in the pre 2017 Kyle Schwarber tier. Maybe even a notch above.

In reality tho I think I'm with batman on this one. They probably hold onto him. Dude is built like Lebron, makes contact and can actually run bases.

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21 May 2017 01:53:06
@thestatbook, fair point for sure about the super-utility roles. To your point nearly half of their roster can player both infield and outfield. And my point is not that they feel they HAVE to part ways because of a log jam, but rather that it might make parting ways with talents like Happ and Jimenez a bit easier considering you have players like Baez, Russell, Schwarber (who they seem committed to), and Heyward locked up at those positions.

It will be interesting to see how much long term money they want to invest in SP this offseason tho. Come 2020 they're going to have to lock up A LOT of their roster. I. E. Bryant, Russell, Schwarber, Contreras, Rizzo, Baez.

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