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15 Jan 2019 15:27:55
Padres trade Luis Torrens, Reggie Lawson, and Austin Smith

Yankees trade Sonny Gray

then.

Reds get Kluber, Jankowski, and Stammen

Indians get Morejon, Hedges, Naylor, and Jacob Nix

Padres get Senzel and Castillo.

Gpack17

1.) 15 Jan 2019 18:39:33
Why wouldn't the Reds just send Senzel and Castillo to Cleveland and leave San Diego out?

The only thing San Diego does here is benefit by receiving Senzel and Castillo, which is pretty outlandish, if we're being honest.


 

 

13 Dec 2018 18:26:24
Padres get Noah Syndergaard

Mets get JT Realmuto and Manny Margot

Marlins get Morejon, Luis Campusano, Eustery Ruiz, Michael Baez, and Jorge Ona.

Gpack17

1.) 13 Dec 2018 19:11:17
So the Padres only have to give up Adrian Morejon and Many Margot as elite "prospects" to get Syndergaard? They'll have to give up a lot more.

At this point, I'm not sure Margot even starts ahead of Juan Lagares in CF.


2.) 13 Dec 2018 21:21:14
according to mlb.com, morejon is 46th and baez is 57th overall, ruiz is 17th in the padres system, campusano is 24th, ona just recently dropped off the list, but all of them would be ranked much higher in the marlins system.

Margot is only 24 years old still with 4 years of control left and is a plus defender.


3.) 14 Dec 2018 04:02:56
And Syndergaard still has 3 years of control, along with being a top 20 starting pitcher in baseball.

Margot isn't that good. He's a glove-first outfielder. wRC+ of 85 in over 1000 plate appearances in his career. You can find controllable glove-first OF on almost every team in the game right now. Margot has upside, but he's done nothing of note in two full seasons to earn value.

The rest of that package is okay.

But the Mets and Marlins aren't going to let the Padres get away with leeching on a deal of this magnitude, especially if they are getting Syndergaard out of it.


4.) 14 Dec 2018 16:03:39
I agree with Stat. That's not nearly enough for the Padres to give up. Even with Andujar being a guy who shouldn't sniff the NL, I would rather him than Margot. A one in one out Syndergaard for Realmuto shouldn't be happening, and the other player (s) involved need to be good. Margot still has potential, but not to the same level as he did when Boston moved him to San Diego.


 

 

03 Dec 2018 17:36:51
Reds trade Nick Senzel

Padres trade Manny Margot and Jacob Nix.

Gpack17

1.) 03 Dec 2018 21:11:54
I don't know why Cincinnati would do this. Margot is basically a Billy Hamilton with worse defense and less speed. He's probably a 4th OF at this point.

Nix is okay, but he's not a guy teams are lining up to trade for.

Senzel is a legitimately good prospect. They'd want much better talent to give him up.


2.) 03 Dec 2018 23:30:56
Before the arguments start setting in. consider the past two seasons:

Margot- .254 BA, .302 OBP, 28 SB, 21 HR, 103 R, 17 DRS, 7.7 UZR, 2.7 WAR
Hamilton- .243 BA, .299 OBP, 93 SB, 8 HR, 159 R, 13 DRS, 14.8 UZR, 2.5 WAR

They didn't even tender Hamilton a contract and he put up almost identical numbers.

If they wanted that kind production, they could've kept Hamilton instead of giving up a top 10 prospect for them.


3.) 04 Dec 2018 16:44:46
Margot is also 4 years younger, paid under a quarter less than hamilton was, under team control until 2023.

Perhaps nix wouldn't be the right pitching prospect in this case but a Morejon and add another lower ranked prospect could help. Like Gabriel Arias. let's not forget that most top 30 guys in the padres farm would be top 10 in a lotttt of farm systems.


4.) 04 Dec 2018 16:55:19
Let's turn this around:

Would you give up Fernando Tatis, Jr. for Manny Margot? Of course you wouldn't. You wouldn't even include him in a trade for Noah Syndergaard (who is objectively a more valuable commodity) .

You're essentially asking the Reds to give up a top 10 prospect for Manuel Margot, when the Padres wouldn't give up the same caliber talent for a much, much better player.


5.) 04 Dec 2018 17:35:48
didn't realize that senzel was that highly ranked. then let's say you replace senzel with saurez? how does this match up?


6.) 04 Dec 2018 18:14:54
Even worse for Cincinnati.

Suarez is coming off the best season of his career, and he's only 27 (doesn't turn 28 until July) .

He's under contract for the next 6 years, at least, and his contract is comically team-friendly. He's only owed 7.3M in 2019. You can't even get Mike Moustakas that cheap.

If the Reds really wanted Margot, I'm sure a package centered around someone like Shed Long would work.

Shed Long, Keury Mella, and some low-level prospect would be pretty enticing.


7.) 04 Dec 2018 23:11:40
If the Padres wanted Eugenio Suarez, it'd likely start with young pitching. something along the lines of:

Chris Paddack
Michel Baez
Hudson Potts.


8.) 05 Dec 2018 17:04:33
Stat is correct. Margot is still young, but he has not come close to realizing his potential given the opportunity. If the Reds were looking for that kind of player, Hamilton would still be in Cincy. Margot would fetch you more than what Hamilton would because of age and control, but not near that much from anyone, let alone the Reds.


 

 

28 Nov 2018 07:31:17
Dbacks trade Goldschmidt

Cardinals trade Alex Reyes, Luke Weaver, Jose Martinez, Sosa

DBacks eat a half of goldys contract.

Gpack17

1.) 28 Nov 2018 14:40:15
The Cardinals aren't that hard up for 7M dollars that they'll up the haul for the Diamondbacks to cover more money.

Goldschmidt won't command that much.


 

 

28 Nov 2018 07:24:26
Padres trade Margot, hedges, asuaje, Baez, Avila

Mets trade syndergaard
—-
Padres trade Reggie Lawson

Yankees trade sonny gray

Padres trade wil Myers and Jacob nix

Indians trade Trevor Bauer
—-
Padres trade franmil Reyes and Jose pirela

Braves trade camargo

Padres sign Bryce Harper 8 year/ $300 million

C- Mejia
1B- Hosmer
2B- Urias
SS- Tatis
3B- Camargo
OF- Harper, Cordero, Renfroe

SP-
Syndergaard
Bauer
Gray
Luchessi
Laker/ Paddack/ Lamet/ Allen.

Gpack17

1.) 28 Nov 2018 14:45:30
These are bad.

1. Syndergaard will require Tatis. Whether the Padres actually decide to move Tatis is another topic, but that's going to be the price tag, and it falls in line with every trade for a major pitcher under team control for the past several offseasons.

2. The Sonny Gray trade. Sure, whatever.

3. The Trevor Bauer trade is hilarious. Unless the Padres are taking on most, if not all the money, I don't see why the Indians would be open to moving Bauer for an expensive player who has been barely above average the past two seasons (2.5 WAR, 107 wRC+) for a guy like Bauer.

4. Camargo would be a top 3 trade candidate should the Braves decide to move on. This won't do the trick.

And Bryce Harper isn't going to San Diego. Turn off the video games and go to bed.


 

 

 

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12 Oct 2016 20:35:47
Padres-Rangers

Rangers trade Jurickson Profar

Padres trade Jon Jay and Ryan Buchter

Padres 2016 opening day field
C: Hedges
1B: Myers
2B: Asuaje/ Spangenberg
SS: Profar
3B: Schimpf/ Solarte
OF: Margot/ Jankowski/ Renfroe.

Gpack17

1.) 12 Oct 2016 22:24:29
Wow this is bad, especially considering that Jay is an FA at seasons end.


2.) 12 Oct 2016 23:18:47
Knowing A. J. Preller's trade reputation, he probably would try and trade an impending free agent for a legitimate young player.


3.) 13 Oct 2016 03:33:27
I got a laugh out of that Jerk. I think the Padres should go out and try to get a guy like Profar.


4.) 14 Oct 2016 21:03:29
No Profar is better than that Padres would have to offer more.


 

 

11 Nov 2015 06:55:24
What would it take for the padres to get Todd Frazier?

Gpack17

1.) 11 Nov 2015 07:28:42
Take the top 4 prospects in your organization, pick 3 of them. That's what Cincinnati ought to ask for.


2.) 11 Nov 2015 13:39:19
It would take a lot which they don't have much of anymore since Preller traded everyone last winter.


 

 

22 Jan 2015 18:32:40
Another thing that I think could possibly happen, not likely too however.

Padres trade Gyorko, Kelly, Dickerson.

Nationals trade Desmond

Nationals get a starting 2B who is young, a potential SP, and a guy who can fill in and play 1B or LF in dickerson.

Padres sign James Shields, 5 years $100 mill. He wants $110 and they will get close but nobody will give him that.

C- Norris
1B- Alonso
2B- Spangenberg
SS- Desmond
3B- Middlebrooks
LF- Upton
CF- Myers
RF- Kemp

SP- Shields
SP- Cashner
SP- Ross
SP- Kennedy
SP- Morrow/Johnson/Erlin/Despaigne/Luebke/Wisler

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22 Jan 2015 18:27:48
This is not a rumor, this is just something off the top. just something that could happen, not likely to though.

Padres trade Gyorko, Hedges, Dickerson, Maybin, Casey Kelly, Ryan Butler, and Yeison Ascensio

Nationals trade Desmond and Zimmerman

Padres fill their hole at short and get another solid SP, both are in their last year on the books. let's spangenberg play 2nd whose a left handed bat.

Nationals get a starting caliber 2b, one of the top catching prospects in baseball, a backup OF who could spell Span, a guy who can play 1b and LF in dickerson and is on the verge of the bigs, kelly who was once a solid prospect and can pitch in the bigs, and a young pitching prospect in butler.

Gpack17

1.) 23 Jan 2015 02:32:52
Why would the Padres give all that up for 1 year of a shortstop and a pitcher?

Not to mention, giving up Gyorko for Desmond puts them right in the same spot offensively. That and Gyorko is under team control for several more years.

And the Padres were one of the best pitching teams in baseball last year. they need more offense, not more pitching.

Plus, I hope they get Shields. He'll be toast in about 3-4 months.


 

 

21 Jan 2015 08:40:27
After giving it some thought, the padres have made all of these moves including arbitration signings and are still 1.5 mill under last years payroll. of they can find someone to take on Quentin and or maybins contracts and maybe even Kennedy or Benoit, then they have more room to work with. With that said.

If moncada cannot be posted until after June 15th, the red Sox, rays, and Yankees can only offer a max of 300k. preller is big on the international market and could make a play on moncada.

Also, if they do find teams to take those contracts, they could definitely have enough room to resign Upton and that let's them trade renfroe. orrr sign a guy like shields.

Just throwing this out there because so far, I wouldn't be surprised by anything preller does.

Gpack17

1.) If its after June 15th, which it probably won't be, the Cubs and Rangers can spend more than 300,000 again, and are at that point the favorites despite both having an influx of middle infielders.


 

 

 

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08 Feb 2019 16:25:03
It has been stated already that if they were to trade for Kluber, it would be to re use him as trade bait to another location. That notion has probably exhausted itself by now though. Harper is still possible. Obviously Realmuto is gone. They still need a 3B. If the Phillies get Machado, you could see the Padres try to get Franco.

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13 Dec 2018 21:21:14
according to mlb.com, morejon is 46th and baez is 57th overall, ruiz is 17th in the padres system, campusano is 24th, ona just recently dropped off the list, but all of them would be ranked much higher in the marlins system.

Margot is only 24 years old still with 4 years of control left and is a plus defender.

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05 Dec 2018 21:01:45
I would doubt the Padres would give that up. Nix would instantly be around the 5th/ 6th best prospect in their system. I would imagine Gray would be more so far something like Torrens and a guy like Avila.

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04 Dec 2018 17:35:48
didn't realize that senzel was that highly ranked. then let's say you replace senzel with saurez? how does this match up?

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04 Dec 2018 16:44:46
Margot is also 4 years younger, paid under a quarter less than hamilton was, under team control until 2023.

Perhaps nix wouldn't be the right pitching prospect in this case but a Morejon and add another lower ranked prospect could help. Like Gabriel Arias. let's not forget that most top 30 guys in the padres farm would be top 10 in a lotttt of farm systems.

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