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30 Nov 2016 01:20:28
Blue Jays

Sign
Fowler 4 years 75 million
Blevins 2 years 14 million
Benoit 1 year 7.5 million

Mets trade Bruce

Blue Jays trade Urena


Lineup
Fowler LF
Travis 2B
Donaldson 3B
Bruce RF
Moreales DH
Tulowitzki SS
Martin C
Smoak 1B
Pillar CF

Rotation
Stroman
Sanchez
Happ
Estrada
Liriano

Bullpen
Tepera
Dermondy
Benoit
Biagini
Blevins
Grilli
Osuna

The Jays could potentially add Encarnacion but i don't feel they should because i don't believe he can play first for 100+ games for 3 years. I feel Smoak and maybe a platoon partner would work until Tellez is ready.


 

 

07 Nov 2016 04:00:56
I really think the Blue Jays should target Yasmany Tomas. Now i understand that he hasn't fully lived up to his expectations but i feel he would be a good DH/ 1B in Toronto. Its a tricky trade to predict with his contract and exactly how teams value him

I feel it could be

Tomas

For

Maese and Harris.

Maybe more should me added, or taken off. i'm not sure but i feel that he could replace some of the power lost.


1.) 07 Nov 2016 20:36:58
It's very believable, I think he's due for a stand-out season.


 

 

22 Oct 2016 01:01:38
Blue Jays off season

Non-Tender Chris Colabello, resign to a minor leage deal after

Use Grillis option

Send QO to Bautista, Encarnacion and yes Saunders

Resign Cecil 3 years 17 million
Resign Barney 2 years 7 million
Resign Benoit 1 year 3.5 million

FA targets
Josh Reddick- 4 years 60-75 million

Trade targets
Joey Votto

Blue Jays give up
Reid Foley
Alford

Reds give up
Votto, (5-10 mill a season)

Adam Eaton
Blue Jays give up
Harris
Zeuch

Sox give up
Eaton
Robertson (salary dump)

Extend Donaldson 7 years 180 million

Lineup
Eaton LF
Donaldson 3B
Votto 1B
Tulowitzki SS
Reddick RF
Martin C
Smoak DH
Pillar CF
Travis 2B

Sanchez
Stroman
Happ
Estrada
Liriano

Loup
Biagini
Cecil
Beoint
Grilli
Robertson
Osuna

Give me some feedback.


1.) 22 Oct 2016 13:58:10
No way white Sox accept that deal.


2.) 22 Oct 2016 14:32:44
Rick Hahn would block the Blue Jays number after such an awful proposal.


3.) 22 Oct 2016 14:36:24
Again, Votto WILL NOT waive his no trade clause.


4.) 22 Oct 2016 14:59:07
zammer, if a team extends a QO, you know what happens, right? Wait, no, you don't.

Plus, your trade proposals are hilariously one-sided. If you think the Jays could get Votto and Eaton for that, you are sadly mistaken.


5.) 22 Oct 2016 16:27:17
The White Sox won't give up Robertson in a salary dump. They could get much better prospects for him than the guys you proposed.


6.) 22 Oct 2016 16:29:27
When was the last time the Blue Jays spent over 100 million on a new signing or extension? Vernon Wells in 2006, since then they have not given another out. I keep hearing they have money to spend, but where is it?


7.) 22 Oct 2016 17:31:02
They definitely have money to spend. They don't like too, but they have it. I think they have to extend Donaldson. The fans love him.


8.) 22 Oct 2016 18:45:10
Why do you say Votto will not waive is no trade clause?
He hasn't actually said either way. Also, I feel that the Reds would scoop up Alford and Reid-Foley, get rid of a lot of salary and say thank you very much Jays. The Reds aren't competing so why would they need Votto.
Zammer, your Eaton/ Robertson trade is rather weak tough. Jays would love Eaton as a leadoff guy but I don't even think they would want Robertson.

Batman, Rogers corporation has more money then they know what to do with,
but they do have a board and shareholders that they have to answer to. So they do have a salary cap every year.
I believe their payroll was north of 140 mil last year and most expect it will rise significantly this year.

The Jays had a policy in place for awhile that no contract would exceed 5 years, that's why you don't see a lot of big contracts signed by players for the Jays. I don't think that policy still exists.


9.) 22 Oct 2016 23:59:32
I think Saunders would accept the QO.


10.) 23 Oct 2016 21:23:44
I feel Saunders would too and i would mind taking him on for another year even at that price point.

I like the idea of getting Eaton but i knew my trade was weak.

The Votto trade is incredibly complicated with his big contract and no trade clause.

Whats some feedback on the ideas? I think its a good plan for the jays.


11.) 24 Oct 2016 03:11:35
Wouldnt mind keeing Saunders**.


 

 

02 Sep 2016 22:56:11
Blue Jays off season

Use Grilli's Option
Resign Benoit- 1 year 3 million


Extend Bautista, Encarnacion and Saunders QOs

Either a) Bautista will accept
Or b) resign him to a 3 year contract ( he's not getting the years or money he asked for earlier)

Buy out Donaldsons last 2 years of arbitration and sign him to a extension (most likely around the park of 7 years 200+ million)

Promote Tellez, Pompey, Barnes, Jimenez, Dermody, Tepera

Lineup
Travis 2B
Bautista RF
Donaldson 3B
Martin C
Tulowitzki
Smoak 1B/ DH
Tellez 1B/ DH
Upton Jr LF
Pillar CF

Pompey OF
Goins UTL
Jimenez C
Carrera OF

Sanchez
Estrada
Happ
Stroman
Liriano

Tepera
Dermody
Barnes
Biagini
Benoit
Grilli
Osuna.


1.) 03 Sep 2016 01:23:53
This is very unrealistic.


2.) 03 Sep 2016 02:03:21
How is this unrealistic? Using Grillis option is a no brainer. Hopefully we are able to get Benoit again to continue to have that 7th, 8th, 9th along with Osuna and Grilli. The Jays aren't going to resign Encarnacion instead they are going to invest that money into siging Donaldson long term. It isn't anything spectacular its more maintaining what they have both present and long term.


3.) 03 Sep 2016 03:06:26
I don't see them bringing back Benoit or Grilli because of their age. Or at least not both of them maybe one or the other. I see them going out and grabbing a guy like Neftali Feliz and putting him in a late inning role (7th inning probably) and role with that. I actually now think that they should bring back Grilli and sign Feliz to a 2-3 year deal. I don't see Joey Bats going back though. I see E. E returning or going to the Red Sox but either way I see them possibly trading away a prospect or 2 to get Gerardo Parra from the Rockies now that Dahl is up Parra has no real spot. So I see a lineup of Travis 2nd Parra RF Donaldson 3rd E. E DH Tulo SS Martin C Smoake 1st/ Tellez 1st Upton LF Pillar CF

I think that is more likely and then have a bench of either Navaro Thole or Jimenez either of the 3 then either Smoake or Tellez who ever isn't playing and then Goins as a utility guy and Cerrera as your 4th outfielder.


4.) 03 Sep 2016 03:28:05
Bautista accepting a QO. That might be the funniest thing I've heard today.


5.) 03 Sep 2016 04:36:05
Bautista will hit the market, but he will get a three year deal, max.


6.) 03 Sep 2016 06:53:51
He might be smart enough to take it. He ain't geting 150 mil the way he's playing.


7.) 03 Sep 2016 09:04:37
The Donaldson extension I could see maybe, but Baustista is just about good as gone. They would also need to add to the bullpen as Dermody, Barbes, and Tepera are not very reliable.


8.) 03 Sep 2016 13:53:20
So it's either the QO or 150M?

I bet he lands a Victor Martinez or Nelson Cruz type deal.


9.) 03 Sep 2016 23:40:19
Sull i think you are absolutely crazy thinking they shouldn't bring back Grilli and Benoit. Look at their numbers with the Jays.


10.) 04 Sep 2016 07:58:38
you know, I originally thought Bautista would be gone but the longer he continues this sub par year the more I think he may re-sign with the Jays.

I believe the Jays will take him back on a 3 year 60 mil contract with a team option for a fourth if he accepts a DH/ 1st base role.

If he asks for 1 of Longer term/ right field, He will probably walk.

I don't think any team would want him in the field and a few teams could try him at first and DH.

Performance bonuses could also factor into where he plays next year.

Grilli and Benoit are fan favorites and still effective despite of their age. Could be a bargain.

I hope the Jays will resign Navarro and Barney, both would be very useful and inexpensive.

Don't be surprised if you see Liriano in the Bullpen next year and 1 of Osuna or Biagini as a starter next year.


11.) 05 Sep 2016 15:25:10
EE resigns for $20-$24 mil hometown deal
They will offer Bautista a QO but he won't accept, fine take the 1st
Saunders is not worth the $13 mil QO
Why spend the money now on Donaldson when they can pay less for 2 more years and sign him closer to end of current deal
They will not bring up Pompey to sit him on the bench, 1 more year in the minors

Osuna will not be a starter, youngest pitcher EVER to record 30 saves in a season. Hard enough to find a good closer with his mentallity and makeup and you have a 21 year old. He could easily close for another 15 years at an average of 35 save, 3rd all time, not saying that will happen but could.


12.) 05 Sep 2016 21:09:29
^when is the last time you saw a player take a hometown discount?


13.) 05 Sep 2016 21:43:27
If u don't sign donaldson now he is walking after those 2 years. He is gunna get the money in the 2018 class along with Machado and Harper.


14.) 06 Sep 2016 03:43:48
it makes sense for both Jays and Donaldson to negotiate now imo.

He will be making 17 mil next year and will be age 32 after his contract. He's not exactly young, a bit if a late bloomer.

So if the Jays are willing to negotiate in the 20-25 mil range with some term. The bonuses and incentives like a no trade clause might be worth it to him.
obviously for the Jays, if he goes to free agency, they will be in tough with all the clubs with lots of $$$. The Jays have the money, but do have a cap.
Also Donaldson is the type of player that needs to compete and win, so if he feels the Jays aren't in win now mode, he will probably move on.

As far as EE. Not to many Agents will recommend to his client to take a "home town deal"
But for a guy who is currently making less tham 10 mil, will be 34, primarily a DH and has history of minor injury problems. Any team that pays him 24 mil a year or more is taking a huge risk.
I love EE, but not sure I want the Jays to fork out that kind of money for 4-5 more years. Even though I could give a damn how much money rogers spends, I know the way they work.
Back to Osuna for a second Jaysfan.
I know he's only 21 and has been lights out as a closer.
But you have to realize he came up a starter, he has publicly stated that he wants to be a starter. He has all the tools (97 mph, good change up, wicked slider along with command) that it only makes sense to use all this to be a starter. Many see him with the same potential as Sanchez.

Also, they have him until atleast 2022 very cheap. Dickey will be gone (thank god) Happ, Estrada and Liriano will probably all be too in a couple years.


 

 

26 Jul 2016 15:47:11
Jays got their outfielder, their team is pretty set. I feel 1 more bullpen arm could help out because i feel Aaron Sanchez will stay in the rotation

Blue Jays get
Sean Doolittle

Athletics get
Brady Dragmire
Dwight Smith Jr.


1.) 26 Jul 2016 16:10:25
The A's would want more for Doolittle. Those two guys wouldn't bring Toronto much of anything.


2.) 26 Jul 2016 19:29:03
How much more do u feel? Doolittle hasn't done much in the last 2 years due to injury, i don't feel his value is much.


3.) 26 Jul 2016 20:00:02
Dragmire is a 23 year old minor league reliever. Minor League relievers already have ridiculously low value, but then when you consider he doesn't strike guys out and he has a high BB/ 9 rate, he's certainly not going to bring anyone back.

Smith, Jr. is alright, but he's certainly not very attractive as a prospect, either.

Doolittle, when healthy, will have a lot of value. He's controlled through 2020 and has a ridiculously cheap contract. The A's will want a pretty decent package for him.

From the Blue Jays, think Reid-Foley and probably one other major piece.


4.) 26 Jul 2016 21:37:09
That much for Doolittle? i'd rather pass and hope Cecil figures it out. Reid Foley in my mind is an untouchable because the Jays don't have the prospects to get an A pitcher so i wouldn't waste him for a B or C pitcher.


5.) 26 Jul 2016 23:01:29
The Athletics likely wouldn't accept a package featuring Reid-Foley as it would get outbid by many teams.

In fairness, with how small of a window the Blue Jays have to be competitive, no prospect should be untouchable.


6.) 27 Jul 2016 00:03:01
I disagree on that one, i think the Jays have a good sized window to be a very good team. The Jays are more than likely losing Bautista and EE but they still employ Donaldson, Tulowitzki, Martin, Upton, Pillar, and Travis. A big part of them being competitive is their pitching and they will still have their rotation together minus RA Dickey. Who knows? Maybe Stroman figures it out next year and it creates a deep rotation. Maybe Pompey steps in and becomes the outfielder he projects to be. Their window i feel isn't closing because they have a good mix of younger players and vets.


7.) 27 Jul 2016 02:00:06
Their window is this year. Maybe next.


8.) 27 Jul 2016 02:16:53
Martin has shown serious wear. Tulowitzki is not the same player he once was, probably never will be. If they don't resign Bautista or Encarnacion, they lose significant performance in the middle of their lineup.

They also don't have organizational depth that is near MLB ready. Most of their better prospects are years away still.

I think they will still be a good team, but their best bet is to try and win it all this year. Making any prospect untouchable when that window is small would be ill-advised.


 

 

 

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23 Mar 2017 14:21:07
The Stro Show! Huge season for him this year.


1.) 23 Mar 2017 22:55:42
Because of one start?

Are we forgetting about the other start? He'll be fine. But let's not overreact just yet.


2.) 29 Mar 2017 14:22:27
The other start where he struggled in the first then pitched 3 clean innings after, or the one where he shut out the Dominican over 4.2 innings? Or are u talking about his second half of last season? All signs are pointing up man.


3.) 29 Mar 2017 16:48:14
"Huge season for him this year. "

You said this after he pitched one good start. I said he'll be fine. But to project a "huge" season for anyone because of one outing is a massive overreaction.


4.) 30 Mar 2017 04:39:10
Its not just because of one outing. The guys from the all star break and on has been a good starter and this season it already looks like he is finally fully healthy and locked in.


5.) 30 Mar 2017 05:38:44
"this season it already looks like he is finally fully healthy and locked in. "

He's literally pitched less than 20 innings 'this season'. You cannot possibly project a huge season based on 20 innings and a mediocre finish last season. I don't mind Stroman and think he's a great pitcher, but nothing has shown us this is going to be a "huge" season.


 

 

07 Nov 2016 13:53:44
Free Agent Signing Predictions

Jason Castro - Astros
Wilson Ramos - Nationals
Matt Wieters - Braves
Mitch Moreland - Rangers
Mike Napoli - Indians
Neil Walker - Angels
Justin Turner - Mets
Yoenis Cespedes - Mariners
Brandon Moss - Reds
Angel Pagan - Phillies
Michael Saunders - Giants
Ian Desmond - Dodgers
Dexter Fowler - Blue Jays
Carlos Gomez - Rangers
Jose Bautista - Red Sox
Josh Reddick - Blue Jays
Mark Trumbo - Orioles
Carlos Beltran - Rangers
Edwin Encarnacion - White Sox
Kendrys Morales -Orioles
Andrew Cashner - Orioles
Bartolo Colon - Mets
Doug Fister - Braves
Jeremy Hellickson - Marlins
Rich Hill - Marlins
Ivan Nova - Pirates
Greg Holland - Blue Jays
Kenley Jansen - Yankees
Mark Melancon - Nationals
Aroldis Chapman - Cubs

Let see how this works out.


1.) 07 Nov 2016 20:37:47
Again can't have both Fowler and Reddick we only need one.


2.) 07 Nov 2016 22:56:02
I feel both makes our lineup complete.


3.) 08 Nov 2016 21:47:14
Yeah but Carrera has proven himself.


4.) 09 Nov 2016 13:29:40
Im sorry but did i just see you reply saying that Carerra has proven himself? I like him, i think he is an impactful baseball player but he is a 4th outfielder and nothing more. He cannot start 150 games a season for a winning team. When he's hot, he can lead a team like in the playoffs but when he returns to earth he can't nake contact.


5.) 09 Nov 2016 20:26:33
Carrera was barely above average wOBA and had a terrible wRC+.

To say he's "proven himself" is the most biased, homerish things I've read from Blue Jays fans in a while (which is huge testament considering the Blue Jays fans on this site) .

Considering your namesake claims you are trying to be unbiased, I'd say you were as successful as Hillary.


6.) 10 Nov 2016 14:22:14
I have to agree with theJerk

Hes not a starter, he shouldn't be a starter. He is a 4th outfielder and a good one.

If the Jays want to content next year they will need to find someone to start over him and Upton Jr.


7.) 12 Nov 2016 19:57:35
Jerk stats aren't everything, you can tell he's ready from the postseason. Watch out Carrera will be good next year.


 

 

20 Oct 2016 01:05:45
Its over this year for the Jays. It was a great season. Now looking into 2017 lookjng for left handed power, realistically how much would they need to give up to get Joey Votto.


1.) 20 Oct 2016 06:37:05
The Reds would insist on taking on a portion of his contract just to up the value of prospects they get. I wouldn't be surprised if they take on half his contract and demand Alford and Reid-Foley.


2.) 20 Oct 2016 12:06:15
To start, Toronto will not be as good next year because they will lose probably both Bautista and Encarnacion. Second, Votto has a full no trade clause.


3.) 20 Oct 2016 13:24:30
The Blue Jays will still have a dangerous lineup even if they lose both Bautista and Encarncion. Secondly they have some good young pitching, they could be just as good. And just because Votto has a full no trade clause doesn't mean he can't be traded.


4.) 20 Oct 2016 13:28:33
I understand the full no trade clause and also understand he is born and raised in Toronto. I feel the Blue Jays will remain good becausw of their good starting pitching. I feel the package will depend on how much Cin will eat on his contract.


5.) 20 Oct 2016 15:51:41
the loss of Bautista will actually be an addition by subtraction. he still has some value but I feel from most fans, it's time to move on.

The loss of Edwin will hurt unless they can get somebody to replace him like a Votto. He may resign, you never know.

Their Starting pitching is still intact and Liriano looked really good for them. You probably won't see an improvement in the starters next year though.
Bullpen needs work. Andrew Miller was by far the best acquisition by any team at the trade deadline.


6.) 20 Oct 2016 16:30:25
I think they'll bring back Brett Cecil, and I think they bring back one of Encarnacion or Bautista.

I wouldn't be shocked if they go after one of the starters. Liriano was good, but man, he's really taken a turn for terrible the past season and a half. They don't have much in the way of young arms that can come up from the minors and make an impact. I would go after someone that could be shuffled to the bullpen like a Jon Niese or Doug Fister and get some insurance.

As far as power is concerned, there's lots of it available. Even if they don't sign either E. E. or Bautista, there's enough guys who could be a huge improvement over Smoak/ Colabello.


7.) 20 Oct 2016 18:52:02
I think bringing back Cecil is an amazing idea and it always in the plans. i'm not sure if its worth it to go after a high priced reliever in Melancon, Jansen, or Chapman. I feel using Grillis option, possibly bringing back Benoit, and a few cheap setup options would be a good bridge to Osuna.

As for offense, if not Votto, i feel we need to get younger and more lefthanded. I like Reddick and i think he could be a good option, maybe even bring back Saunders on a short term deal.

1B i think is going to Rowdy Tellez if the Jays don't resign Encarnacion or trade for Votto.

I feel, unlike most fans, we should resign Bautista. He isn't getting the money he wanted and could become affordable.


8.) 20 Oct 2016 20:16:44
I think Blue Jays fans are delusional if they think Tellez will start the year at 1B in Toronto. The guy is 21 and hasn't played above the AA level yet.

If they miss on Encarnacion, I assure you, they go after a 1B, even if that's Loney or Reynolds.

Tellez won't be ready until closer to June/ July of '17.


9.) 20 Oct 2016 22:46:26
I know it doesn't mean that but he probably won't waive his no trade clause.


10.) 21 Oct 2016 01:21:23
you guys might be right on Votto and I know he has said he's happy in cinci but I think most players really want that chance to be good and compete for the playoffs every year. I'm not saying it will be the Jays just cause it's his hometown but I really think he will eventually get traded to a contender. I just fint see the Reds as a playoff team gor many years.
His contract does make things very complicated though, or it probably would have happened already.


 

 

10 Oct 2016 04:32:06
BLUE JAYS >rangers

Osuna was handed the ball in a tie ball game and pitched two shutout innings to get the W.

The Blue Jays have won 6 straight.

Good night everybody.


1.) 10 Oct 2016 13:04:44
They are rolling!

We need Sox and Indians to slug it out right to game 5. I'm hoping Indians win because I like the Jays chances better against them.

Also, We really need Travis and Liriano back asap!


 

 

04 Oct 2016 14:27:23
Jays beat O's
Mets beat Giants
ALDS
Jays beat Rangers 3-1
Indians beat Sox 3-2
NLDS
Dodgers beat Nats 3-2
Cuba beat Mets 3-0
ALCS
Jays beat Indians 4-3
Cubs beat Dodgers 4-2
World Series
Jays beat Cubs 4-2.


1.) 04 Oct 2016 18:57:28
I'm guessing your a Jays Fan? Cause it's going to be the Cubs Rangers or Red Sox who will win it all probably Cubs though.


2.) 04 Oct 2016 20:27:21
Cubs > Blue Jays, Rangers > Blue Jays, Indians > Blue Jays, Red Sox > Indians.


3.) 05 Oct 2016 13:34:39
Lets go, bring it on! The Jays have the best rotation in the AL side and riding that amazing walkoff HR. The Jays are gunna win it all.


4.) 05 Oct 2016 14:10:20
You're clearly biased.


5.) 06 Oct 2016 20:32:24
Who on here isn't biased? The Jays have the most starting pitching depth in the AL which they will ride. Momentum and starting pitching carries teams through October.


 

 

 

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14 Feb 2017 04:06:40
Oh and sign Joe Blanton. How is this guys still on the market. Easy 7th/ 8th inning guy with Grilli.


 

 

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14 Feb 2017 04:03:43
Yep its a no go, Vlad Jr is going no where. The trade isn't bad i feel the Jays should stick with what they have now. Pompey is a real interesting guy and i feel he can factor into the LF equation. The only thing i could see is a 6th starter/ swing man or a AAAA spot starter continued to be added.


 

 

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22 Jan 2017 09:01:13
I think its a fair price for Hamilton but do u think the Indians would do it? No i really don't think there's a chance. Mejia is not going anywhere.


 

 

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12 Jan 2017 15:10:05
Rathe4 have Pompey than Gardener


 

 

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