16 Jan 2020 14:42:48
Astros

I know this won't happen, BUT if I were the GM of Houston I'd be looking for way to keep the success long-term. I think this team still wins 100 games and the West while also restocking the farm and preparing for the loss of their next two 1st and 2nd round picks.



HOU- Nick Senzel, Tyler Stephenson, Lyon Richardson
CIN- Carlos Correa

Correa seems to be one of the young players HOU is considering moving. With Diaz playing well behind him I could see him being shipped out now. Cincy needs a SS and now has Senzel left without a position. He can always be a UT, but they also seem interested in acquiring a top tier SS.



HOU- Steven Matz, Andres Giminez, Franklyn Kilome
NYM- George Springer

The Mets have not been quiet about wanting to add a true CF. Springer is coming off a career year and plays solid defense. The Astros have Senzel (see above trade) who can replace Springer in the lineup and Matz will add a solid LH pitcher to the bottom of the rotation. The Mets have a deep set of pitchers to deal from.


HOU- Danny Diaz
BOS- Josh Reddick

If Boston trades Mookie, Reddick becomes a solid 1 year option to replace him. Diaz is an upside prospect to take a shot on.



C- Martin Maldanado
1B- Yuli Gurriel
2B- Jose Altuve
3B- Alex Bregman
SS- Aledyms Diaz
LF- Kyle Tucker
CF- Nick Senzel
RF- Yordan Alverez
DH- Michael Brantley

SP- Justin Verlander
SP- Zach Greinke
SP- Lance McCullers Jr
SP- Steven Matz
SP- Brad Peacock

1.) 16 Jan 2020
16 Jan 2020 15:08:07
I doubt many will go running to bail the Astros or Red Sox out at this point. The Astros won't get anywhere near market price for any of their guys.

2.) 16 Jan 2020
16 Jan 2020 16:44:49
I would disagree. They have All-Star players they are moving. They're not trying to dump a Pujols contract. There is still a market for these guy, and even if they lose a slight bit of leverage, they will still get a solid return.

3.) 16 Jan 2020
16 Jan 2020 17:44:17
I repeat: no one is going to bail out the Astros. Yes, they have players that teams would (and should) want. But no one is going to pay premiums for those players. Not now.

Teams are livid regarding the cheating scandal, and I'd imagine a lot of front office execs feel Houston got off easy. They won't get anything close to the returns you're giving them. The deals above are far too rich.

4.) 16 Jan 2020
16 Jan 2020 17:45:22
Why would LA do this? With no guarantee that Betts will sign an extension, they aren't giving up Adell for a rental.

5.) 17 Jan 2020
17 Jan 2020 13:11:40
I repeat: These players have a ton of value and do not carry bad contracts. They are not "bailing" Houston out. If a team feel they're making their roster better by making a trade they would do it. They would not stop because they "think" they might be helping the Astros.

6.) 17 Jan 2020
17 Jan 2020 14:54:37
Bailing them out would be paying market value for the players. Again, none of the teams wouldn't go out and trade for, say, Carlos Correa, but the Astros won't have any of the leverage in trade discussions. They would be massively underselling their players.

In other words, they likely won't get someone like Nick Senzel for Correa. Giving them Senzel (and Stephenson FWIW) would be bailing them out. They *might* get Tyler Stephenson for Correa straight up. But even that might be too rich at this point.

Teams are obviously upset. Why would ANY of them pay full price (or higher) to give Houston anything of value at this point?

7.) 17 Jan 2020
17 Jan 2020 14:58:17
To put it more simply (since that's what you need at this point) : if the Giants asked for Carlos Correa, for example, and the price in 2019 was Joey Bart and Heliot Ramos, the new price is probably closer to Heliot Ramos and Luis Matos.

It's still a decent return, but it's nowhere close to what they could get had they not cheated.

Giving them Bart + Ramos would be bailing them out.

8.) 18 Jan 2020
18 Jan 2020 16:51:42
thestatbook, I see your point, and also register that it's just an example.

I do think that the Astros would get a really good return on Correa, but I also agree, the price dropped quite a bit since this scandal.

9.) 20 Jan 2020
20 Jan 2020 20:23:13
thestatbook. I think you really overestimate your knowledge on this situation. If you for one second think Stephenson would be "too rich" for Correa you should quit talking baseball. We use this site to throw out ideas we think would be interesting. Sure, it may not be perfect and no one will ever guess the correct deals, but to think a top 5 SS (regardless of the perception of the team) wouldn't net a top 50 prospect is ludicrous. I'd bet money if Correa got traded it would be a lot closer to my proposal than yours.

10.) 21 Jan 2020
21 Jan 2020 04:22:35
I think you underestimate how teams feel about the Astros. No one is going to run out there and give them anything of value for their players.

If they trade Carlos Correa, we would basically all agree they gave him away. I don't know if the Reds, or any team, would even consider a top 100 prospect at this point for any player. They are that angry at how easy the Astros got off for this scandal.

The Astros would be baseball's Dollar General if they started moving players.