16 Apr 2016 08:10:15
Mariners get: Jay Bruce, 7.5 million USD, Kyle Waldrop

Reds get: Seth Smith, Tyler O'Niel, D. J Peterson

*Would happen more into the season

SEA's problem has been offense and Bruce can help solve the problem. Smith would have no place if Bruce came to SEA, so he goes to CIN. Like the Segura/ Hill deal, one team gets an upgraded player at a position while giving prospects and the "worse" player to the other team.


1.) 16 Apr 2016
16 Apr 2016 13:36:35
Why would the Reds accept this? its quite horrible.


2.) 21 Apr 2016
16 Apr 2016 18:46:42
Cincy has given away assets (Frazier, Chapman, Leake) too cheaply lately. This would continue that pattern.


3.) 21 Apr 2016
17 Apr 2016 05:53:06
I never thought it was possible to make the Reds worse, but alas someone did it.

You, sir, deserve a prize.


4.) 21 Apr 2016
17 Apr 2016 20:53:03
The Reds have practically given away Todd Frazier, Aroldis Chapman and Mike Leake over the past year, so this would follow that trend.


5.) 21 Apr 2016
21 Apr 2016 16:56:21
-Frazier wasn't as bad of a return as the media suggested. The Dodgers got Montas, who was hugely over-valued, and Thompson, who is a bench OF at his highest. Peraza is a fine 2B, as were the other pieces.

-Leake brought in Adam Duvall and Keury Mella. Duvall will do quite well for himself in Cincy, as will Mella.

-Chapman had no value whatsoever.

I don't get why people think the Reds were fleeced. They did just fine. Bruce will be traded for a great value as well.


6.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 03:23:17
Chapman had no value? Best closer in baseball. We will have to agree to disagree on that.

As for Frazier, the Reds should have gotten more.


7.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 07:22:40
Value is measured in many variables and contexts.

For Chapman, his impending suspension wasn't known at the time of the trade. So trading for a guy who may not have played much was a crap shoot. Not to mention the bad PR it could have led to had it been worse.

Chapman's a great closer. But his situation made him almost completely without value. Reds got lucky to get anything more than a compensation pick for him.