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07 Dec 2015 13:59:19
Now that I have a little bit of time on my hands.
NYY-Michael Pineda
LAD-Jose Peraza, Alex Wood OR Walker Buehler.


1.) 07 Dec 2015 14:31:55
Wood and Peraza are worth more than Pineda.

2.) 07 Dec 2015 14:54:30
I figured so, just thought I'd give it a shot.

3.) 07 Dec 2015 17:46:28
It's the kind of return I could see for someone like Carlos Carrasco.

4.) 07 Dec 2015 23:10:07
To much for Pineda.



16 Dec 2014 14:52:33
How about this. PHI-MIA
Miami Gets Cole Hamels and Ryan Howard
Philly gets Garret Jones, Nate Eovaldi, Second base prospect Avery Romero, P Domingo Germano, A competitive balance draft pick (which can be traded) and salary relief.


1.) I failed to mention Howard would platoon or just back up Morse at first base.

2.) 16 Dec 2014 17:14:21
I don't know if that package is worth Hamels + Salary Relief.

Take out the salary relief, it's actually not a bad trade. Howard's contract is so bad it's is almost a player in and of itself.

But it's not too shabby of an idea otherwise.

3.) 16 Dec 2014 17:26:51
^^^Wait, I read that all wrong.

I like the trade as is.

4.) When I first read this I thought "no way." But I did a little research and it's actually a well thought out offer. The competitive balance pick would be the first sandwich pick, since MIA won the lottery. The only caveat would be whether or not the Marlins would (or could) take on all that salary.

5.) 17 Dec 2014 01:25:15
Hamels would be a stand alone trade and to a rival they would need a top pitching or OF prospect plus an upper middle prospect of the one you didn't get and one or two mid level prospects for Hamels

6.) Also meant salary relief going to Miami not Philly.

7.) Philly can do better than that package for Hamels.

8.) They could, but they are getting an established starter in Eovaldi, a top second base prospect to eventually replace Utley, Germano is a rising prospect in the Marlins system, and how many other teams could offer a draft pick. Not that many. You don't think Philly would jump at the chance to an extra pick.

9.) Why would the phillies want garrett jones?

10.) 18 Dec 2014 04:34:44
If they got rid of Howard, they'd likely need a 1B. Jones could fit the bill. I'm not sure if they'd want Ruf starting there.

11.) Obvious to replace Howard, which shouldn't be to hard.



11 Dec 2014 15:22:58
Tigers get Cespedes, 1 or 2 minor Leaguers from Red Sox who get Porcello. It also appears the Tigers a close to landing one of the starters from the Reds. Marlins also close to acquiring a starter and are in pursuit of Morneau.


1.) 11 Dec 2014 20:44:42
So much for all those Tigers fans who said we'd NEVER get Porcello for Cespedes.

2.) To be fair they were talking about straight up, which didn't happen they got more in return.

3.) 12 Dec 2014 04:21:23
No one said they'd never do it. many folks, like me, said they shouldn't do it. and still, I think it was dumb of Detroit.

Hopefully they can extend him. they get absolutely nothing if he decides to test the open market. since he can't be offered a QO.

The Tigers are on pace to become the Phillies of the American League.

4.) 12 Dec 2014 04:40:21
They got a AAA middle reliever and a really low level pitching prospect with low projectability. It was practically a straight-up trade.

5.) 12 Dec 2014 08:22:12
Again, just because it happened doesn't mean it was ever a good deal.

Detroit will be regretting this hardcore when Porcello signs his extension (he has property in Vermont. and he won't be a popular FA next winter) and they are left with a year's worth of stats to ogle at when Cespedes walks and they get no comp pick for him.

I seriously hope Porcello becomes a future Cy Young winner now. Not because I like the Sox, but because I want this trade to go down as the worst ever.

6.) ^^ Wait . I thought Twins sere the Phillies of the AL.

7.) 12 Dec 2014 17:20:37
How would the Twins be the Phillies of the AL? They have Mauer and a bunch of young players.

The Tigers are likely to have a lot of aging players on their roster. none of whose values are getting better. Most of them have big contracts and most of them are going to be very tough to move as their values decline.

8.) ^^Twins never spent relentlessly and gave up tons of prospects with a clueless GM running the show. However Dombrowski is not clueless and knows what he's doing.



05 Dec 2014 15:38:32
trade that just happen. 3 teams
Arizona gets Robbie Ray from Detroit
Detroit gets Shane Greene from New York
New York Yankees get Didi Gregorious.
someone else could go to Detroit to.


1.) Actually another player going to Arizona.

2.) 05 Dec 2014 16:41:22
Domingo Leyba to the D'backs as well. not that it matters.

3.) Ive been a tigers fan my whole life and moved to Arizona 4 years ago and became a dback fan and I like this trade

as a tigers fan, giving up ray (who was the main piece for fister) and leyba (who is yet another top 2b/ss prospect the tigers have that was traded with travis being the other) this may be too much but greene was the Yankees most consistant pitcher in the rotation outside of kuroda and McCarthy so I like this

as a dback fan, I love it cause I still keep leyba and ray on a favorite team and only give up gregarious

the Yankees also did good

grade for this trade:

tigers: B- (could be an A if greene still pitches good)

Yankees: C+ (greene for gregarious may be a bad trade off but could increase if gregarious works on fielding and the Yankees should hire jeter as an assistant to SS in the club system)

dbacks: A- (they get the best grade cause they get a good LH starter in ray and a good young 2B/SS in leyba who is better then gregarious all for just gregarious)



29 Nov 2014 03:07:38
A's trade Donaldson to the Blue Jays for Lawrie, Nolin, SS prospect Barreto, and prospect pitcher Graveman.


1.) Unbelievables bet you feel silly now!

2.) Not really, considering I posted this after hearing of the trade. just posting a little factual information. I bet you feel silly now.

3.) Batman, I'm on you're side, I was referring to the guys who hit the unbelievable button after a trade has happened, CHILL!

4.) Oh. my bad, thought you were one of those unbelievable people.

5.) I think this was a great trade for the jays, what do you guys think?

6.) As an A's fan I think Toronto got the better deal as it stands now but that's the case when you trade for prospects.
We got Josh in a similar Trade in 2008 so time will tell!




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17 Dec 2018 14:38:07
So I know how we talked about how this years free agent class was one of the greatest of all time, but next years looks just as good.
Jose Abreu
Yonder Alonso
Paul Goldschmidt
Justin Smoak
Starlin Castro-if his option is not picked up
Jonathan Schoop
Xander Boegarts
Didi Gregorious
Nolan Arenado
Matt Carpenter-if his option is not picked up
Josh Donaldson
Todd Frazier
Anthony Rendon
JD Martinez-if he opts out
Marcel Ozuna
Aaron Hicks
Nick Castellanos
Adam Eaton-if his option is not picked up
Yasiel Puig
Kris Davis
Edwin Encarnacion- if his option is not picked up
Chris Archer-if his option is not picked up
Jake Arrieta- if he opts out
Madison Bumgarner
Garret Cole
Cole Hamels
Corey Kluber- if his option is not picked up
Rick Porcello
Chris Sale
Stephen Strausburg- if he opts out
Julio Teheran
Justin Verlander
Zack Wheeler
Jose Quintana- if his option is not picked up
Jake Odorizzi
Dellin Betances
Kenley Jansen-if he opts out
Jeremey Jeffress
Will Smith
These are just some of the free agents, ones that are probably at the top or middle of the class.




25 Sep 2016 14:17:23
R. I. P. Jose Fernandez.


1.) 25 Sep 2016 14:31:50
OMG that's terrible! So young-So good!



05 Aug 2016 17:17:06
Since we are talking farm systems lately I figured I'd post bleacher Reports currently rankings. With the top 10 also representing mlb. com's rankings.

1. Yankees (2 on MLB. com)
2. Brewers ( 1 on MLB. com)
3. Astros (same on MLB. com)
4. Braves (9)
5. Red Sox (7)
6. Dodgers (5)
7. Phillies (8)
8. Pirates (4)
9. Rockies (10)
10. Nationals (6)
11. Reds
12. Padres
13. A's
14. Twins
15. Rays
16. Cubs
17. Rangers
18. Cardinals
19. Blue Jays
20. Indians
21. Mariners
22. Mets
23. White Sox
24. D-backs
25. Royals
26. Giants
27. Tigers
28. Marlins
29. Orioles
30. Angels.


1.) 05 Aug 2016 22:21:13
I'd be curious to know what led to those rankings.

Giants have 3 guys in Baseball America's midseason top 100. They also have tremendous depth near the MLB level.

Also, the Indians are still a top system after all they gave up. Still a lot in that farm.

2.) 06 Aug 2016 02:48:30
Jerk most people do not respect the Giants fan system they say that the giants number 1 guy would be another teams 5th prospect. Yet time and time again Giants prospects almost always play better than most of the other prospects.

3.) 06 Aug 2016 02:49:57
I'm not really sure who on bleacher report does these. but every time the put out their rankings the Giants are usually not high up there. It confuses me because they always have someone that comes in and contributes. I do see the Baseball America rankings. And actually Jerk the only top 100 guy the Giants have on mlb. com is Arroyo. I think the Giants have a better system than people give them credit.

4.) 06 Aug 2016 04:36:40
Baseball America has Arroyo, Beede, and Shaw. Also had Bickford and Mejia, who are now traded to other teams.

5.) 06 Aug 2016 13:11:53
Apparently the difference between the baseball america and mlb. com midseason rankings is that mlb. com did there's almost a month later. They also included recently drafted and international signings. So it is likely they got pushed off mlb's list.

6.) 07 Aug 2016 04:46:03
Either way i think all three of us can agree the giants have one of the most underrated systems in all of baseball, they're so deep almost everywhere not just prospect wise but 25 man roster wise as well.

7.) 07 Aug 2016 14:27:38
and for what is worth. I do believe the Giants system is underrated. They may not have the elite/ premium prospects or that many that most teams look for. But they do produce under the radar guys.



12 Dec 2015 17:11:12
I know this is years away and we usually blast anyone who posts something that will happen years from now, but this is predictions.
The Free Agent Class after the 2018 season is huge. Barring any extensions that is.
Josh Donaldson
Bryce Harper
Clayton Kershaw if he opts out
Dallas Kuechel
Matt Harvey
Jose Fernandez
David Price if he opts out
Jason Heyward if he opts out
Andrew McCutchen
Adam Jones
Manny Machado
Michael Brantly
Craig Kimbrel
Zach Britton
Trevor Rosenthal
AJ Ramos
Andrew Miller
David Robertson
Glen Perkins
Kelvin Herrera
Adam Wainwright
Garrett Richards
Patrick Corbin
Shelby Miller
Nelson Cruz
Hunter Pence
Adrian Gonzalez
AJ Pollock
Charlie Blackmon
Brian Dozier
Yasmani Grandal
Derek Norris
Adieny Hechavarria
Jean Segura
Joe Mauer.


1.) 12 Dec 2015 18:32:23
hands down greatest free agent class ever!

2.) 12 Dec 2015 18:58:58
Wow even only some of those players sign extensions.



03 Aug 2015 18:59:13
MLB Post Trade Deadline Farm System Rankings according to Bleacher Report.
1. Dodgers
2. Red Sox
3. Twins
4. Cubs
5. Rockies
6. Pirates
7. Braves
8. Astros
9. Nationals
10. Phillies
11. Yankees
12. Rangers
13. Brewers
14. Mets
15. D-Backs
16. Rays
17. Indians
18. Cardinals
19. Reds
20. Tigers
21. A's
22. Royals
23. White Sox
24. Orioles
25. Mariners
26. Blue Jays
27. Marlins
28. Angels
29. Giants
30. Padres


1.) 03 Aug 2015 22:53:37
Farm system rankings are a total joke.

Giants regularly rank in the bottom, yet they keep producing guys who excel. Matt Duffy was an 18th round draft pick and could very well win Rookie of the Year.

Cardinals find themselves in the same boat. they keep finding the guys who may not be as heralded, but they fit into the system and they excel beyond the prospects from top teams.

2.) 04 Aug 2015 00:11:15
I do agree somewhat. But the Giants haven't usually been able to make a really big trade because of organizational depth. The Cardinals are usually ranked much higher.

3.) 04 Aug 2015 20:55:35
Many of the trades that the Giants have missed on weren't because of a lack of depth, but because they didn't want to give up 6 pieces for one player.

No way the Giants would have matched what Texas gave up for Hamels. they weren't going to give up 6 players. I guarantee, that trade hurts Texas in the long-run.

4.) 04 Aug 2015 21:35:41
Eventually teams and the people that rank the farm systems are going to realize what Natedub said even though giants prospects don't rank highly they preform well in the majors,

5.) 05 Aug 2015 08:30:25
The key to farm systems isn't having guys with a number next to their name. Baseball America only looks at these guys, hypes them up, and gets them in their top 100. but many of them have low ceilings.

The key to your farm system is player development. And the reason the Giants & Cardinals have done so well is they've had consistent leadership. Not a lot of change happening within the front office, so their goals and direction remain the same.

A guy like Matt Duffy, who everyone said he'd be lucky to make the big league club, let alone start on it, many teams would have likely used him as a warm body on their AA or AAA club, maybe given him a chance in desperation, and called it good. Sabean and his crew knew how to manage him, take him and use him. Panik, Crawford, Belt. all in the same boat (although Belt had a lot of fanfare as a prospect coming up).

You can have a plethora of top prospects and never see any of them turn into something huge. The Twins are going to be a prime example of that. Aaron Hicks was supposed to be the next big thing in baseball and nothing has happened. maybe he's an Alex Gordon, but I doubt it.

You can have no top prospects and find gems in your farm that excel way beyond expectation.

Seriously, these farm system rankings are jokes.

6.) 13 Aug 2015 14:06:50
The big difference between the Giants and Cardinals systems are that the Cardinals are usually always at the top. The Giants usually at the bottom. The Cardinals this year have suffered from trades and major league promotions. The Giants do produce quality under the radar guys. The Cardinals usually have top stars. Not knocking the Giants at all, but it does hinder their ability to make big trades, where the Cardinals don't usually have that issue. Example the Jason Heyward trade.

7.) 14 Aug 2015 19:23:44
Here's my frustration with this and why I think it's total garbage.

Many of these teams have had "highly ranked" farm systems for years, and their team is full of old, washed up contracts with no positive outlook for the future. Or, they just can't get their guys to click, for whatever reason.

People look at these lists and they think, "oh, these are the future teams of baseball", with no thought of player development history. With no consideration for what these teams can do with these players, or consideration that 50% of the Top 100 prospects from the past 10 years have failed to be anything more than replacement level players in the majors (or even make it there).

But teams like San Francisco, the Angels, the Orioles, the A's, all of whom have been highly successful the past 3-5 years, are at the bottom? Yet, all of those teams are flush with young talent. and while they may miss for a year, they are almost always back in the next year, with a new group of young players to help fill holes.

If we look and say, who has the higher ranked prospects, fine. that's about all this list is useful for. if we're trying to identify who will have great teams 5 years from now, I promise, this list doesn't give us anything.




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17 Dec 2018 05:35:19
someone has pipe dreams.




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14 Dec 2018 12:48:27
waylon, they probably will trade Abreu at some point between now and July 31st. If they can get more prospects, they will trade him.




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14 Dec 2018 01:52:52
If the three team trade between the 3 teams were to happen it would have already happened. It sounds as if it fell apart quickly. The Abreu trade isn't happening, the White Sox would want more. If they were going to DFA Ellsbury I think they would have already, or they could release him like the Blue Jays did with Tulowitzki. And finally 35 million is about right for Machado, just he probably wants 10 years.




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06 Dec 2018 20:32:14
No where near enough for Bumgarner if the Giants did decide to trade him.




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05 Dec 2018 05:11:02
I agree, I was thinking that it was to much but wasn't going to say anything.





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