12 May 2017 14:33:59
Trade
NYY- Eric Hosmer
KC- Blake Rutherford, & Chance Adams

1.) 12 May 2017
12 May 2017 17:31:44
So you are giving up on Greg Bird already? He suffered an ankle injury in late spring training, never recovered fully and is now on the dl. If he ends up being out long term, maybe trade for Hosmer.

2.) 13 May 2017
12 May 2017 22:22:07
Hosmer would be a rental, which might not be bad if the Yankees are in contention and Bird is still struggling.

3.) 16 May 2017
16 May 2017 15:36:30
BATMAN, Hosmer is a FA at the end of the year. This trade strictly helps the Yankees this year. If they feel Bird doesn’t progress this year, they can consider resigning him. Rutherford is not ready and has Judge and Frazier in front of him. Adams is a good young pitcher with upside. It’s a win-win for both teams.

4.) 17 May 2017
17 May 2017 16:17:21
I'm well aware that Hosmer is a free agent at the end of the year. But the likelihood of him signing with the Yankees is low in my opinion. Remember they are trying to stay under the luxury tax so they can reset the % so they aren't paying so much tax. Secondly yes Rutherford is still a few years away, but that doesn't mean they should trade him either. They could easily trade Ellsbury by then as his contract will be in the last year or so. I know that the high probability of them landing Bryce Harper after 2018, but he could easily DH or Judge could DH. Its hard to predict what will happen though. Trading for Hosmer isn't going to happen.

5.) 17 May 2017
17 May 2017 17:54:58
Did you really just say the Yankees could "easily" trade Jacoby Ellsbury?

Unless they take on all of his contract, no one is touching that deal. No one.

6.) 18 May 2017
18 May 2017 05:51:49
Yes, apparently "thestatbook" you didn't read after that. I said at the end of his contract or by then, which is what this guy was saying about Rutherford not being ready. Yes they will need probably pick half the contract. You really need to stop this nitpicking on comments. (Right now Jacoby Ellsbury 3.5 years left, let's say 80 million roughly left on the contract, not tradeable. Jacoby Ellsbury in 2019, the time period being mentioned, 2 years 42 million, Yankees eat half or more, very tradeable. )

7.) 18 May 2017
18 May 2017 17:21:54
You call it nitpicking, I call it commenting. (Which, by the way, you do the exact same thing. )

Also, I didn't say they need to take "half" of his contract, I said "all. " No one, I repeat no team is going to pay $20+M for a 35-year-old outfielder who has underperformed for years now.

And talking about clearing the way for a guy who doesn't have 150 PAs above rookie ball is putting the cart before the horse just a wee bit, don't ya think?

8.) 18 May 2017
18 May 2017 18:51:37
how about reading everything I say, we are HYPOTHETICALLY talking about 2-3 years from now, when Rutherford IS ready. They may not trade Ellsbury, they may move him to dh. sure they could trade Rutherford by then. who knows, but it won't be for a rental. I also think that after next year if they were to make Ellsbury available, and ate 21 of the 42 million left on his contract, I think a team would be willing to make a move on and pay him 10 million a year. By the way I may do the same thing, but at least I read the whole comment before hand.

9.) 18 May 2017
18 May 2017 19:34:48
Right. I'm well aware of what you mean. I get the sense you're not understanding what I'm saying, so I'll try to explain a little better.

One, if the Yankees took on 21 of Ellsbury's 42M left, the acquiring team would be on the hook for $21M. Name me one team that would pay that for an under-performing, 35-year-old outfielder? You make it seem like it'll be this super easy task to move Jacoby Ellsbury when he's 35. It won't. The Yankees likely won't want to take on that money, as they've been very averse to doing so in the past few seasons. And no one is touching that contract. It won't be easy.

Two, Rutherford is good. No one will deny that. But every year, people act like top 100 prospects won't be given up for rentals. They will. And for the Yankees, and any forward-thinking team in baseball, trading a prospect 2-4 years away for an immediate impact as a contender is a no-brainer (see: Cubs, Giants, Dodgers, Indians, Red Sox, Royals) . The Yankees certainly understand the risk to guys like Rutherford, as they've seen it themselves with guys like Slade Heathcott, Mason Williams, and Rob Refsnyder in recent years. None panned out. The development path is risky, and moving a project like Rutherford for a proven commodity is likely.

10.) 18 May 2017
18 May 2017 19:44:55
Also, please stop accusing people of not reading what you wrote. We read it. Just because you disagree with what we say doesn't mean we didn't read what you said.

I am well aware you are talking HYPOTHETICALLY. But if your hypothetical situation means Jacoby Ellsbury is suddenly a must-have commodity at 35 and Blake Rutherford is a can't-miss prospect, you're aiming for the clouds. Could it happen? Yes. Will it? My guess is most likely no. Especially with Ellsbury and very likely with Rutherford.

Your dogmatic response to the Hosmer trade, and to people's responses to you is evidence you're unwilling to hear any other opinion than your own. Again, we read your comments. We just disagree. And that's okay.

11.) 19 May 2017
19 May 2017 05:54:32
I get what you are saying now. I am open to others opinions, what I don't like is when someone tries to spin what i'm saying around into something else. I still think a team would be 10 million a year for Ellsbury by then, maybe I'm wrong, who knows, we shall find out in several years. And yes Rutherford could always be a bust like Williams, Heathcott, and several others.

12.) 19 May 2017
19 May 2017 17:28:36
You keep saying someone would take Ellsbury S10M, you think the Yankees, who have been averse to taking on needless contract money, would take on $32M+ for Ellsbury?

I also don't think anyone would touch Ellsbury at that price. No one wanted Jay Bruce at $13M, and he was younger and a better hitter.

13.) 20 May 2017
20 May 2017 14:06:45
No I really don't think the Yankees would take on over 32M for Ellsbury, 20-22, maybe. I don't know where you are getting 32M from. but the likelihood of him getting traded is slim, he will probably end up Dhing in the end.

14.) 20 May 2017
20 May 2017 16:48:01
If a team is taking on $10M during the time period you suggested, that means the Yankees are on the hook for $32M. Unless someone somewhere is paying $11M for Ellsbury.

15.) 20 May 2017
20 May 2017 17:50:57
So you seem to have misinterpreted what i mean or I just didn't make it clear. I meant 10 million each of the last two years of the contract, making it 22 Million the Yankees would be on the hook for.

16.) 21 May 2017
20 May 2017 23:32:58
10M a year makes a heck of a lot more sense. Thanks for clarifying.

Either way, teams weren't willing to bit on $13M for one year of Jay Bruce, they won't likely go for $10M a year for 2 years of Ellsbury.