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19 Jul 2017 14:25:07
Pirates: Jed Lowrie
Athletics: Tony Watson.

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19 Jul 2017 14:57:10
Pirates want more than a rental for Watson.

19 Jul 2017 16:35:02
I would rather have Watson than lowrie too, but lowrie does have a team option next year, so he's not exactly a rental.

19 Jul 2017 20:24:42
You're right, Lowrie does have an option.

That said, the Pirates would want prospects back was the point I figured most would understand.

20 Jul 2017 03:50:11
I wouldn't say that, they got an MLB player (plus a low prospect) for melancon last year, and the pirates are certainly still in the hunt.

20 Jul 2017 04:27:54
They got a player with 5+ years of control for Melancon.

20 Jul 2017 12:14:00
You want more examples? Walker for niese, niese for bastardo, Wilson for cervelli, mcgehee for qualls, liriano for hutch, the list goes on. Watson isn't worth that much, his FIP is in the high 4s, he isn't fooling anyone. And the pirates are one have under .500 and are 4 games out of the division. If they make trades, it will likely be someone who is gone this offseason (Watson), for someone who can contribute now, and will be around beyond this year.

20 Jul 2017 15:33:17
Niese and Bastard were both horrendous when they were traded. The idea was that perhaps both would go back to their old teams and succeed, neither did. McGehee was awful. And Cervelli for Wilson, wasn't a rental for rental. Cervelli had only 4 years service time when traded, Wilson had 1. The Walker-Niese trade was in the offseason, and the expectation was that they'd get a full year of a cheap SP. Niese was horrible, so they moved on.

With Watson, teams don't have many other LH options unless they want to pony up for Wilson or Hand. Watson presents a decent 7th or 8th inning option. Look at his numbers in save situations vs. non-save situations. Teams will see those and get pretty excited. The Pirates can and likely will get more future value for Watson.

20 Jul 2017 17:13:33
As I said previously, I would rather have Watson than lowrie, I'm not saying lowrie is their guy, but my point is that I don't believe they will trade him for prospects, as you said they would.

20 Jul 2017 23:08:21
Will they get top prospects for Watson? Of course not. They won't get useful MLB pieces for him.

20 Jul 2017 23:22:55
They aren't going to move Watson for meaningless prospects while they are still in contention.

21 Jul 2017 01:05:25
Trust me, they won't get "meaningless" prospects for Watson. As I said, he's the best LHH rental. That won't come cheap.

19 Jul 2017 09:07:49
Pirates Receive:
3B Yandy Diaz
LHP Ryan Merritt
Indians Receive:
Tony Watson.

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18 Jul 2017 21:27:52

Astros get: Cozart

Reds get: Daz Cameron

It was just reported that Correa will be out 6-8 weeks with a thumb injury so they will need to go out and find a fill in option if they want to stay atop the AL standings, plus Cameron is blocked by guys like Fisher and Tucker and a few other guys in the Astros system.

The Reds have been looking to trade Cozart for a while and he is in the middle of the best season of his career so they should look to trade him now because his value will probably never be higher. And adding Cameron to your farm system which is already one of the better systems is a great return for Cozart.

What do you guys think?

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18 Jul 2017 22:14:54
I think Houston will keep Cameron and use Marwin and Bregman at SS, with Gurriel seeing more time at 3B.

If they make a deal, a guy such as Nunez from San Fran, who can play many positions like Marwin, makes some sense.

18 Jul 2017 23:09:27
Astros are in the same boat as the Nationals. Both teams have sizable leads in their respective divisions and have bigger issues to deal with than shortstop. Both teams will make do with what they have there and upgrade positions of bigger need.

18 Jul 2017 23:28:05
Wouldn't be surprised if they go with guys like Erick Aybar for depth. Would cost them nearly nothing in return.

19 Jul 2017 02:16:40
They are up like 16 games. I don't think they'll panick.

18 Jul 2017 20:31:57
Yankees- Athletics trade:

Yankees get: Alonso, Grey

A's get: Justus Sheffield, Dustin Fowler, Tyler Wade, Tyler Austin

Yankees get the 1st baseman that they desperately need. Along with another starter which would be an upgrade over Pinada even if he was healthy to slide in behind Tanaka.

The Athletics continue their rebuild, they add a high upside pitching prospect, a high upside outfield prospect which they really need(even though he is currently injured) a middle infield prospect with potential and a MLB ready 1st/OF prospect in Austin.

What do you guys think?

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18 Jul 2017 20:55:57
Frazier or Torres would have to go the other way ++.

18 Jul 2017 22:15:21
With Gray in the deal, I agree with minnow.

18 Jul 2017 18:52:07
Pirates deadline moves:

To PIT: OF Starling Heredia, RHP A.J Alexy (lad #11, #28 )
To LAD: LHRP Tony Watson

To PIT: OF Lorenzo Cedrola, LHP Jalen Beeks (bos #14, #27)
To BOS: 3B David Freese

Boston gets a veteran 3B for 2 yrs. Dodgers a veteran LHRP for the postseason. All while the Pirates continue to buy and sell by saving about 10 mil. Plus the 3 mil saved from Jung-ho Kang visa problem. 13 mil total. PIRATES GO GET SOMEONE THIS OFF-SEASON (aka mike moustakas)

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18 Jul 2017 16:51:58
Yankees Trade Deadline Moves (Buying and Selling)


Mets get Estevan Florial, Ian Clarkin, Billy McKinney, Chad Green, and Rob Refsnyder

Yankees get Lucas Duda, Addison Reed, and Jerry Blevins

Trade #2

Rangers get Jorge Mateo, Miguel Andujar, Jordan Montgomery, and Dustin Fowler

Yankees get Yu Darvish

Trade #3

White Sox get Wilkerman Garcia and Caleb Smith

Yankees get Todd Frazier

Trade #4

Brewers get Brett Gardner

Yankees get Freddy Peralta

Call up Chance Adams from AAA.



CF Ellsbury
2B Castro
C Sanchez
RF Judge
DH Holliday
3B T. Frazier
1B Duda
SS Gregorius
LF C. Frazier


C Romine
3B Headley
IF Torreyes
OF Hicks




Warren (Swingman)
Shreve (Middle Reliever)
Clippard (Middle Reliever)
Blevins (Middle Reliever)
Reed (7th Inning Setup Man)
Betances (8th Inning Setup Man)
Chapman (Closer)

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18 Jul 2017 19:32:06
Have you seen Jordan Montgomery pitch? Under 4 ERA in AL East. Less than hit/ Inn, .245 BAA and .714 OPS. Would you give him up for rental in Darvish. Why would Yanks give up starter to get starter. They will be looking to add SP. This is add 1 subtract 1. Are you thinking? Add in 3 Top 100 prospects (Mateo, Andujar and Fowler) FOR A RENTAL! If you say call up Adams-call him up and keep all those trade chips. You could get Sonny Gray or Gerrit Cole (2 1/ 2 yrs each) for that.

Mets could get lots more if they sold Duda, Blevins and Reed separately. Why would Yanks trade Gardner (leadoff hitter, gold glover) for Peralta who MLB projects as a #4 starter and still in AA. No need! They have plenty of SP prospects in minors-Adams, Sheffield, Kaprelian, Abreu, Ramirez, Acevedo, Tate. etc. Plus Cessa, Mitchell and Chad Green. Not a lot of thought put into this post!

18 Jul 2017 22:40:23
So bwright it seems you are back to being very delusional. The first trade is horrible, No one is going to give up top prospects for 3 rentals. if they were top of the market players, then yes possibly top prospects would be necessary. I don't see the Darvish trade happening. I don't see the Frazier trade happening either. Gardner will get traded, but I think it will be in the offseason. I also think he could get more in return, not top prospects, but mid levels/ fringe prospects.

18 Jul 2017 16:35:13
D-Backs acquire:
RHP Juan Nicasio
Pirates acquire:
LHP Cody Reed High-A
INF Jack Reinheimer AAA.

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18 Jul 2017 06:52:37
Dodgers acquire
CF Andrew McCutchen
Pirates acquire
SP Walker Buehler
C/ 3B Kyle Farmer
SP Julio Urias
Joc or Enrique have not stepped up and McCutchen could fill a vital role for the teams playoff push. Also the Pirates would be taking a high risk/ reward with Urias with him being out at least a year. Farmer is blocked and turning 27 soon so he gets a chance to play some 3rd for the Pirates. Buehler is a guy the Pirates drafted but couldn't sign before college so I think this trade works out for all. The Dodgers essential trade no guy who impacts this years team for a chance for a WS ring well the Pirates gain controllable youth.

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18 Jul 2017 11:34:31
No chance the Bucs get that for Mccution. The Dodgers don't really need another OF, they have Puig in one corner and Bellibger in another and Joc up the middle. What the Dodgers need is some bullpen help and maybe one more starter. Urius is part of their future big 3 of him Seger and Bellinger.

18 Jul 2017 00:20:46
Giants and Cubs trade

Giants get OF D.J Wilson RHP Preston Morrison and PTBNL

Cubs get Hunter Strickland, Denard Span and cash considerations

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18 Jul 2017 01:56:16
For the love of god, people. The Giants aren't giving Strickland away. They will demand an elite prospect, maybe even two, or an MLB ready player for him.

18 Jul 2017 03:57:24
Not enough for Strickland.

19 Jul 2017 03:50:35
As a Giants fan, I have watched Strickland pitch, and although he has been better lately, I am not convinced he is worth a top 10 prospect. I do believe Wilson is a top 30 however.

19 Jul 2017 06:35:38
He has a sub-2 ERA, he doesn't hit arbitration until this winter, so he's controllable for another 3 seasons.

Think of what the Padres are asking for Brad Hand, that's what the Giants will ask for Strickland. At least one, if not two elite prospects. And rightly so.

17 Jul 2017 20:22:45
Nats-Reds trade

Nats get: Drew Storen, Scott Feldman

Reds get: Drew Ward, Tyler Watson

Why Nats: this gives them another bullpen upgrade which they are looking for and they get a guy who can step into the open spot that Ross left in the rotation, plus Storen is familiar with the organization.

Why Reds: this gives them 2 more prospects to continue their rebuild. They get a 3rd base prospect with high upside in Ward, and they get a good pitching prospect in Watson as well.

What do you guys think?

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18 Jul 2017 11:35:21
Do the NATS need to add more? Or is this an overpay?

18 Jul 2017 12:20:26
With Ross out and the bullpen trashed, the Nats could use more.

18 Jul 2017 13:32:36
I know they could use more than this, but this is a way to get decent upgrades for a great price. They seem to be unwilling to give up their top prospects so the only other guy I can think of that wouldn't cost much that is being shopped is Robertson. The NATS won't be trading for guys like Britton because I would likely cost them a top prospect. Plus they only need a guy who can step in for this season and maybe even for part of next season while Ross is out. Storen is haveing a great year (compared to the last few years) and would decently help the NATS struggling bullpen, and Feldman has been above average. He is the "ACE" for the Reds so if you get him and take some pressure off of him and slide him down to 4 or 5 (depending on where Roark is) and give him some offense, he should only get better.

18 Jul 2017 22:18:04
I'm answering your question; you asked if the Nats need more. I said yes.

I don't think it's an overpay. The Nats might have to give up more for those two, but not much more.


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