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02 Aug 2017 16:14:56
Rays Offseason

TB- Jose Abreu
CWS- Jose De Leon, Lucius Fox

CWS have one big piece left and that's Abreu. They will look to move him in the offseason. His contract is reasonable and TB will be looking for pieces with control and affordable. This move benefits both teams.

Lucas Duda 4 years $36 million
Neil Walker 2 years $24 million

LF- Corey Dickerson
2B- Neil Walker
3B- Evan Longoria
1B- Jose Abreu
DH- Lucas Duda
RF- Steven Souza Jr
C- Wilson Ramos
CF- Kevin Kiermaier
SS- Willie Adames

C- Jesus Sucre
IF- Matt Duffy
IF- Adeiny Hechavarria
OF- Mallex Smith
UT- Brad Miller

SP- Chris Archer
SP- Jake Odorizzi
SP- Brent Honeywell
SP- Jacob Faria
SP- Blake Snell

MR- Dan Jennings
SU- Brad Boxberger
CL- Alex Colume

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03 Aug 2017 03:39:32
Your trade has some merit. The free agent signings? Not so much, especially Walker. That would mean Brad Miller, Matt Duffy, Hechavarria and Willy Adames all vying for playing time and the starting SS job. I don't think they traded Moore and prospects to put Duffy and Adeiny on the pine.

03 Aug 2017 03:39:55
Also, you left Alex Cobb and Matt Andriese out of the team's plans.

03 Aug 2017 05:05:06
Cobb is a free agent this winter.

03 Aug 2017 18:02:34
Sox aren't trading Abreu anytime soon. Especially not for a headliner of De Leon.

05 Aug 2017 03:49:18
Forgot that about Cobb. Dude will make big coin this winter.

05 Aug 2017 13:31:42
No worries. It'll be interesting to see what these middle rotation arms make. I'm guessing around 13-18M a year.

05 Aug 2017 14:03:38
Cobb is good enough that he would be a No. 1 SP on some teams, and the No. 2 SP on many. He will be at the high end of that spectrum.

05 Aug 2017 18:12:13
I think we'll have to disagree on that. He doesn't have the peripherals to control front line starter money. Maybe for someone like Milwaukee or Kansas City.

08 Aug 2017 20:22:54
I am going to agree with thestatbook on this. I don't see Cobb getting the top end of starter money. He is good enough to be a number 1 on a bad team like the Marlins or even the Phillies. A good team like the Dodgers, probably 4 or 5. I think no more than 15 million a year for Cobb.

01 Aug 2017 19:18:12
Who is going to be the last prospect going to Detroit in the Justin Wilson and Alex Avila traded with the Cubs I got 8 prospects that would do great for the tigers here they r

Of-Albert Almora JR
Of-Mark zagunis
Of-Eddy Martinez
RHP-Duane Underwood Jr
Of- DJ Wilson
c-Victor Caratini
Of-Charcer Burks
RHP-Jen Ho Tseng

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01 Aug 2017 20:16:53
I think you are shooting for the starts on that one. Almora isn't a prospect anymore, there for isn't in this category. I don't think its going to be one of these players. They already got 2 good players, the third will be a low level, non top 30 prospect. I could be wrong, but who knows.

01 Aug 2017 17:20:05

Jay Bruce 3 years $36 million (Played well in NY and the market for OF is not that strong)
Neil Walker 2 years $22 million (Spoke about an extension in the offseason, will get it done)

Jake Arrieta 1 year $20 million (one year deal to improve his stock after a rough 2017)
Jonathon Lucroy 2 years $23 million (Good veteran to improve the Mets staff)

SS- Amed Rosario
CF- Michael Conforto
LF- Yoenis Cespedes
RF- Jay Bruce
2B- Neil Walker
C- Jonathon Lucroy
1B- Dominic Smith
3B- Wilmer Flores

C- Travis d'Arnaud
IF- TJ Rivera
IF- Jose Reyes
OF- Juan Lagares
OF- Brandon Nimmo

SP- Jacob deGrom
SP- Noah Syndergaard
SP- Jake Arrieta
SP- Matt Harvey
SP- Steven Matz

LR- Robert Gsellman
MR- Zach Wheeler
MR- Jamie Callahan
MR- Seth Lugo
MR- Jeremy Blevins
SU- AJ Ramos
CL- Jenrys Familia

The Mets have $80 million committed to the payroll for next season. They played this year around $130 million. They have about $50 million to spend this year. These moves take up $54 million in cap space. This would be the only way the Mets take advantage of their window.

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01 Aug 2017 23:49:44
Arrieta has been an average starter this year. I really don't think he'll be accepting a 1 year contract at this point in his career. Might be taking a lesser amount per year but he'll still get some years.

02 Aug 2017 05:39:26
They'll have less than $50M. You have to consider the arbitration costs of deGrom, d'Arnaud, Flores, Harvey, Wheeler, and even more so, Syndergaard.

By the time they pay out those salaries, it's closer to about $15M–20M. I doubt the Mets can do anything significant unless their ownership stops being so cheap.

03 Aug 2017 03:40:59
Lucroy has had a terrible year, both offensively and framing pitches.

03 Aug 2017 18:04:15
Harvey will not be pitching for the Mets next year.

31 Jul 2017 20:52:17
To PIT: Jamie Callahan and cash

To BOS: David Freese

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01 Aug 2017 00:35:09
yeah by the time you posted this, Callahan was already traded to the Mets in the Reed trade.

01 Aug 2017 05:19:54
If it weren't posted late, it's not a bad trade.

But with the acquisition of Nunez, why would Boston need another 3B?

01 Aug 2017 17:05:23
Completely forgot about Nunez.

31 Jul 2017 20:39:39
To PIT: Willie Calhoun 2B/OF and cash considerations or PTBNL

To LAD: Tony Watson LHRP Juan Nicasio RHRP

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31 Jul 2017 20:20:53
Yanks get Sonny Gray
A's get Mateo, Fowler and Kapreilian.

Hey Stat-you said the Yanks would have to give up 2 of Torres, Frazier, Adams, Florial and Sheffield. You couldn't have been more wrong. They didn't even give up 1. It's OK-say it-"I was Wrong" It's not that hard.

Drake-you said that a package headlined by Mateo or Sheffield would be easily outbid by other teams. WRONG! You can say it-"I was wrong" Also, you made fun of me for saying that Theo Epstein was "Desperate. " In Ken Rosenthal's July 29th post-he qoutes-"The parallels are not precise — Quintana, 28, is nearly a year older than Gray and under control for three-plus seasons as opposed to two-plus.

The Cubs also were more desperate for a controllable starter, lacking the young major-league ready pitching talent the Yankees can use to fill rotation openings next season. " He agrees with me.

So, in conclusion I was proven right and stat and drake-you were wrong. Are you going to be man enough to admit it? YOU WERE WRONG!

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31 Jul 2017 22:48:36
I was wrong about the Frazier/ Torres comment. I'll admit it.

But you realize Mateo, Fowler, Kaprelian is a better return than your suggestion of Mateo + Florial, right? Many, many scouts think the A's got a fantastic return. I thought there was a bigger market for Gray.

31 Jul 2017 22:50:29
You seem like the guy who loses every game, and the one time you win, you pretend you're better than everyone.

31 Jul 2017 23:16:29
Also, for what it's worth, Rosenthal (who "agrees" with you) along with many others believed it was necessary for Frazier or Torres to be included. Many were surprised by the return.

The market for Gray was weaker than believed. Oakland still got a great return considering.

31 Jul 2017 23:38:04
Hey Mitch you really don't need to brag about this, it makes you look bad and like a sore winner.

01 Aug 2017 00:11:27
Lol, the second I saw this trade go through I knew this post was coming.

Definitely was wrong. Cashman did really well. Package wasn't as bad as most are making it out to be but really thought they'd get a lot more.

01 Aug 2017 01:10:54
I took a lot of abuse from you two guys. I usually don't respond to many of the ridiculous posts. But you two went above and beyond. No hard feelings, Drake- gained respect for you. But-stat-3 more posts and still nasty. "Lost every game". Please provide me with anything that shows I lost every time. Ridiculous. Batman! -appreciate your opinions (especially when you agreed with me. ) But just last week- I posted to stat-wait till next week and we'll see who's right? He responded with nasty attack that stated I was stupid and I didn't know what I was talking about. He deserved my post.

01 Aug 2017 05:24:10
I apologize if you think we are going too far. I need to work on my aggressiveness, so I sincerely apologize.

Please also consider, you've now posted TWO posts where you intentionally bring up others to make fun of them. Not comments, but posts.

I'll back off, but you need to realize, when you bring people up in posts, they have every right to fire back.

I was wrong on the trade. You were wrong in gloating and going on the offense. Let's all move on.

04 Aug 2017 02:06:20
Great. Happy to hear it. Will look forward to debating future trades as long it doesn't get nasty. BTW-I totally agree with your posts on Mets and Red Sox.

05 Aug 2017 17:39:57
Guys, we are all wrong most of the time on this site.

I'll add this; we cannot predict what many MLB execs are doing because they often don't know themselves.

05 Aug 2017 17:43:14
Everyone on this site is wrong almost all the time; the only time someone is not wrong is when they copy from an actual trade.

That, sadly, is truth.

31 Jul 2017 14:51:40
Padres trade Brad Hand

Dodgers trade Willie Calhoun and DJ Peters.

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31 Jul 2017 03:27:15
Hearing Justin Wilson to Cubs is close. Couple Cubs prospects weren't in the lineup tonight. Ken Rose and a few others reporting close.

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31 Jul 2017 13:18:20
Yeah, along with C Alex Avila.

31 Jul 2017 02:37:48
Tigers Get:

Javier Baez
Jeimer Candelario
Victor Caratini
Duane Underwood

Cubs Get:

Justin Wilson
Alex Avila

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31 Jul 2017 04:40:49
Jeimer Candelario
And a minor league pitching prospect
For Justin Wilson and Alex Avila is what the deal
looks to be. Your deal is way over payment by a mile.

31 Jul 2017 11:04:46
Yeah I tried this before the trade happened.

31 Jul 2017 16:30:40
It's unbelievable at the highest level to see Javier Baez used in a trade for a closer [ to a holder I forgot, r ] and a catcher that would start a share with Contraes. Oh, with three prospects, call it dumb.

31 Jul 2017 00:23:28
Hearing that Reed to RedSox is close.

Anyone hearing any specifics?

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31 Jul 2017 05:13:56
its not close, they are just talking right now.


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