23 Jul 2016 15:08:47
Jays and O's Discussing trade for Cashier/ Upton

Not sure who has the advantage but I think the Jays could Offer

Hutchinson ( Some still believes he has a future)
Carrera ( cheap replacement for Upton, decent)
Prospects Reid-Foley, DJ Davis and Justin Maese.

1.) 23 Jul 2016
23 Jul 2016 15:46:53
Not Reid foley.

2.) 23 Jul 2016
23 Jul 2016 16:06:18
I'm hearing Harris and Greene are the pitching prospects that they want to hold onto now.

3.) 23 Jul 2016
23 Jul 2016 16:32:12
NOT Reid Foley. He could probably come up and do better than Cashner.

4.) 23 Jul 2016
23 Jul 2016 16:56:32
I'm not a huge fan of Cashner myself and he might get eaten up in the AL East but he does have quality stuff, just lacks consistency. It would be tough playing on a awful team for awhile. Maybe a change in scenery might help.

In no way is Reid-Foley ready for the bigs yet.
Not sure what Upton's trade value is. Couple prospects I'm assuming.

5.) 23 Jul 2016
23 Jul 2016 17:12:59
San Diego would probably take on the majority of Upton's contract to get a better prospect in return.

I strongly doubt Hutchison has much, if any value at this point.

Of your options, Reid-Foley, and others, seems more realistic.

6.) 23 Jul 2016
23 Jul 2016 18:46:12
Jays don't care about the money Jerk. They have a ton of it.

7.) 23 Jul 2016
23 Jul 2016 21:52:12
It's not so much what Toronto can do as much as what would maximize San Diego's return if they took on most of Upton's contract.

Think about it, if the Blue Jays were to move a high contract player, and they had the option of freeing up salary and getting lesser prospects or taking on salary and getting better prospects, which would you want them to do?

Obviously the second option is better. San Diego knows that as well.

8.) 24 Jul 2016
24 Jul 2016 00:40:05
I think that's what I'm saying. Jays don't have the enough quality prospects to give up but have lots of money. SD could eat as much salary as they want but that won't intice the Jays to give better prospects because they don't have them. Cash they do. That's probably the only way they get a quality guy or two at the deadline.

I understand what SD's objective is as a rebuilding team.

I'm suprised Kemp's name is not popping up as much I'd SD would eat some of his contract. He's putting up good numbers and is not as bad as what you guys think.

9.) 24 Jul 2016
24 Jul 2016 02:42:26
It seems we're saying the same thing. So we're in agreement.

I don't see the Blue Jays landing an outfielder unless they can get one that is moved for salary relief.

10.) 24 Jul 2016
24 Jul 2016 03:49:44
yes, I agree.

11.) 24 Jul 2016
24 Jul 2016 06:51:12
But we'll continue to disagree on Kemp.

There is not an advanced statistic that suggests he is a good player anymore. And if we start talking defensively, he's almost useless. That any team would even want him at this point baffles me.

12.) 24 Jul 2016
24 Jul 2016 12:53:28
He has value and a good bat. A few teams right now could use him if SD would eat some of his contract which they would.
22 HR 68 RBI .265 .500 slugging in less than 100 games playing in SD is pretty decent. That's a bad lineup.

Also he has been very healthy and consistent over his career. Some value there. I'm not saying he's Mike Trout, just not sure why his name hasn't popped up a little more.

13.) 24 Jul 2016
24 Jul 2016 13:42:46
He's barely above average in wRC+ (102), he doesn't get on base outside of getting hits. His wOBA is atrocious.

His plate discipline is at the worst it's probably ever been. He swings at 55% of all pitches, and 41% of pitches outside the zone, but is also low on outside contact. His plate discipline is among the worst in baseball.

His standard numbers (HR, RBI, AVG) don't tell us very much. His peripherals and his sabermetrics suggest what I've been saying: he's awful.

14.) 24 Jul 2016
24 Jul 2016 14:01:10
OK OK let's not get on the Kemp thing again. I know what your saying. But he is a proven run producer and will be a 30/ 100 guy again on a bad team. Maybe DH on an AL team with SD eating half his contract.

15.) 24 Jul 2016
24 Jul 2016 21:18:36
You know what I'm saying, and then you conveniently ignore it.

He has a 102 wRC+, in other words, he's league average in run production.

You want us to drop it, quit calling him a good player.