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24 Aug 2016 04:06:03
Seattle acquires
Chris Carter

Brewers acqurie
Nick Neidert
David Rollins.

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24 Aug 2016 05:25:32
Why doesn't Seattle just wait til winter shen he's a free agent?

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24 Aug 2016 07:09:17
He has another year of control jerk.

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24 Aug 2016 08:46:45
You are right. I guess I was thinking that because he signed a 1-year deal last winter, he was a FA again. I forgot he was non-tendered. Good catch.

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25 Aug 2016 23:37:21
I still don't see the need for the Mariners to bring in another 1st baseman they got Vogelbatch from the Cubs and he should be their first baseman next year and they could move Cruz to DH and have a combination of Martin and Aoki and Gutierrez and or someone else in the outfield making it a better defensive outfield and getting Vogalbatch's bat into the lineup.

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26 Aug 2016 14:52:10
Aoki is a good defender?

Crazysull, defensive values are hard enough as it is. Leave them be.

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23 Aug 2016 19:08:35
Trade in offseason
Diamondbacks trade: Patrick Corbin
Braves trade: Aaron Blair, Touki Touissant, Jon Gant
I know it's weird the Diamondbacks get back two guys they traded to Atlanta but Toussiant has held batters to .219 average in the minors and was only traded so they could get rid of Bronson Arroyo. They could also want Blair back with the idea they could fix him. The Braves have said they want to win next year and get a potential No. 2 starter for people who aren't a major part of their plans. I think the D-Backs are fed up with Corbin's performance and want a strong starter behind Greinke and hopefully Miller and Bradley.

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23 Aug 2016 20:12:15
If the Diamondbacks don't value Corbin's performance, why would the Braves give up two strong pitching prospects to get him?

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23 Aug 2016 22:07:54
Blair has been bad to the point where Atlanta's GM said he isn't safe in next years rotation. Toussiant is 10 on MLB. com's top 30 Braves prospects and has an ERA above 4.00. Neither is MLB. com's Top 100. Corbin was productive last year and the year before that was an All Star. He's young and has potential but I just think the Braves would rather take a chance on him for two guys who aren't a huge part of their plans anymore. And John Gant can be taken out.

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24 Aug 2016 00:08:50
Blair has been so unproductive of late that Atlanta's GM said he had to fight for a spot in next years rotation. Touissant is 10 on MLB. com's top 30 prospects and has an ERA above 4.00. Neither is part of the Top 100 prospects either. Corbin was good last year and was an All-Star the year before. He is young and has potential its just the Braves should take a deal for a controllable possible No. 2 and the Diamondbacks don't have much use or patience for him anymore. Take John Gant out if it makes it more fair too.

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24 Aug 2016 03:10:57
I didn't mean to post that twice I thought it didn't go through.

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24 Aug 2016 16:44:54
Wait, you think he's as good as a #2 starter, but you don't think he's worth top prospects?

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24 Aug 2016 18:04:57
Touissant is not a top prospect yet if at all and Blair has struggled even in the minors so stop saying they're top prospects they aren't anymore. Corbin isn't a good number 2 starter but definently has potential to be one so if Blair and Touissant are top prospects like you say they are then maybe they should be worth him.

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24 Aug 2016 21:20:55
I can't tell if you're being obtuse on purpose or if this comes naturally.

I'm not necessarily calling Blair or Toussaint a top prospect. I'm going off your claim that they are, indeed, not. You've made it evidently clear you don't think they are. That's fine.

With that said, you keep referring to Corbin as a potential number #2 starter.

If the Diamondbacks know that the Braves see Corbin as a #2 starter, don't you think they are going to demand top prospects in return for him? Why would they take two prospects who supposedly aren't any good for a guy with the potential to be really, really good?

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24 Aug 2016 23:22:24
You think I'm obtuse, go look at you're second comment saying they were top prospects to prove I was wrong. now you "didn't necessarily call them top prospects" and that they're not worth Corbin now.
Blair used to be good but Dansby Swanson might be all Atlanta cared about from that trade and because of his performance he's not a top prospect but all his value hasn't been sucked out of him. Touissant was a first rounder and is okay. The problem with Corbin is that you never know how he's going to perform. I think Arizona is fed up with Corbin the same way Atlanta is with Blair. Toussiant is included to give Arizona more value to even out the trade. I don't really need to say anymore.

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25 Aug 2016 07:56:41
Okay, let me explain this slowly for all you Boston sports fans in the room.

You started with the trade idea.

I responded by calling the two "strong pitching prospects ", which they are.

You chided such a notion. Acting like they are SOOO bad. But you also called Corbin a "potential #2 starter"

What team is going to give up a "potential #2 starter" for two guys who you say aren't "top prospects"?

If Atlanta is going to get a front-of-the-rotation guy, they would certainly have to give up top prospects, don't you think?

Seriously, this wasn't that difficult.

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25 Aug 2016 08:01:25
Again, to recap your statement:

Blair and Toussaint suck.
Corbin is a potential #2 starter.

But Toussaint and Blair, who suck, would bring back a guy with the ceiling of a top starter. Makes TOTAL sense.

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25 Aug 2016 13:44:59
^wow RedSoxfan it looks like you're whole argument is a big contradiction.

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27 Aug 2016 06:23:26
I think what he is trying to say is that the Dbacks would be trading struggling pitcher that has had success for a struggling pitcher with no MLB success and a prospect. But yes, a #2 wouldn't be had for 2 bad prospects (not that Blair and Toussaint are bad) .

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23 Aug 2016 17:51:47
Yankees Offseason

Exercise C. C. Sabathia's $5 million buyout

Trade #1

Braves get Brian McCann and Aaron Hicks

Yankees get Kyle Muller, John Gant, Rio Cruz, and Dustin Peterson

Trade #2

Indians get Brett Gardner and Chase Headley

Yankees get Josh Tomlin

Free Agency

Sign Edwin Encarnacion for 4 years and $100 million

Sign Aroldis Chapman for 4 years and $60 million

2017 Roster


CF Ellsbury
LF Frazier
C Sanchez
DH Encarnacion
SS Gregorius
2B Castro
RF Judge
1B Bird
3B Austin


C Romine
OF Gamel
Uti Refsnyder
Uti Torreyes




Cessa (Long Reliever/ Spot Starter)
Mitchell (Long/ Middle Reliever and Spot Starter)
Shreve (Middle Reliever)
Warren (Long/ Middle Reliever and Spot Starter)
Clippard (7th Inning Setup Man)
Betances (8th Inning Setup Man)
Chapman (Closer)

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23 Aug 2016 18:59:30
Chapman will get more than 4/ 60, probably.

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23 Aug 2016 19:27:13
Adding nearly $ 25 MM / year for the next two plus years for those two guys would result in the Indians hanging up and blocking all future calls from the Yankees. Tomlin might be tradable to the Yankees. but, unlikely. A soft tossing RHSP with the short porch in RF would be a formula for a disaster.

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23 Aug 2016 19:34:32
Bob you do realize that is 15 million a year. I don't think any closer will get more than that. maybe a 5th year.

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23 Aug 2016 20:05:47
I don't think you understand how C. C. Sabathia's contract works. If his option vests (which is looking VERY likely), there's no chance the Yankees can buy him out.

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23 Aug 2016 20:30:16
McCann and Hicks don't equal 4 prospects/ players no matter how good or bad.

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23 Aug 2016 20:39:03
Unless Sabathia hurts his shoulder and finishes the year on the DL, it can't be bought out and his option will vest and get 25 million next year.

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24 Aug 2016 14:46:32
EE will NOT sign in NY.

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24 Aug 2016 14:54:44
is that you wishing he won't sign there or do you have some reason for that?

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23 Aug 2016 14:06:22
Jays Off Season

E. E 4yrs - $80mil
Cecil. B 3yrs - $10mil
Barney. D 3yrs - $6mil
Saunders. M 3 yrs- $39mil

Offer Bautista. J QO - He won't accept but it allows the Jays to receive 1st rd pick as compensation

Hellickson. J 3yrs - $39 mil
Wood. T 4yrs - $17mil

2.Sanchez. A
3.Happ. J
4.Estrada. M
5.Hellickson. J

CL-Osuna. R
Su-Biagini. J
SU-Wood. T
MR-Cecil. B
MR-Barnes. D
MR-Tepera. R
LR-Liriano. F

1.Travis. D-2B
2.Donaldson. J-3B
4.E. E-DH


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23 Aug 2016 14:53:09
Encarnacion will certainly get over 100 million this offseason.

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23 Aug 2016 18:51:24
Encarnacion is not a lock to get 5 years. I think he gets 4 years 88 million like Hanley Ramirez.

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23 Aug 2016 19:35:21
Encarnacion > Ramirez.

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23 Aug 2016 20:34:02
I know Encarnacion is better, I mean that could be his value since he's older and that was a suitable amount for Ramirez in the 14-15 offseason. I'm not sure how big of a deal people are going to want to give him even with his performance because of his age.

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23 Aug 2016 21:28:18
BTW no one was expecting Ramirez to get over 100 million. Its quiet the opposite with Encarnacion.

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24 Aug 2016 03:15:46
Really, I hope the Red Sox give him 4 years and maybe 25M+ to provide a significant replacement for Ortiz. Just not sure they'd go five after a disaster with Sandoval and a near one with Ramirez. I take back what I said about Edwin getting 22 he'll get more. But he won't get five years unless it's a team option.

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24 Aug 2016 14:50:47
E. E has publically stated his first priority is to resign in T. O. He said he wants to be paid what he is worth but not to handcuff the Jays.

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24 Aug 2016 14:55:44
I'm quite certain that extension talks broke down months ago and I believe he will be testing free agency.

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24 Aug 2016 15:46:34
You don't think the Red Sox have some sort of advantage. One of their best power hitters of all time is retiring, who plays DH, who almost got fined for publicly stating he wanted Encarnacion to come their.

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24 Aug 2016 21:22:33
"E. E has publically stated his first priority is to resign in T. O. "

Of course he's going to say that in mid-season. His agent is not going to let him create a huge distraction by saying he wants out of Toronto.

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24 Aug 2016 23:25:08
You did a good job with the offseason overall except 1. Encarnacion will not resign with Toronto for that much money and 2. I think the Blue Jays need to improve their bullpen more than Wood and some of that money might be better of going to that than to sign Hellickson.

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23 Aug 2016 03:43:07
After the season is over:

Angels Get: Kyle Schwarber

Cubs Get: Cam Bedrosian, Jahmai Jones, and Nate Smith

It probably won't happen, but the Angels need some left-handed power and should take the high-risk high-reward on Schwarber. Bedrosian will replace Chapman in the bullpen as a solid late-inning arm, and Jones and Smith are solid, not great prospects to even the deal out.

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23 Aug 2016 05:10:43
Be honest, do you really think this is remotely close to enough?

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23 Aug 2016 11:43:46
Bob, the Angels really have nothing of value to trade for Schwarber.

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23 Aug 2016 13:28:50
The Yankees weren't able to get Schwarber for Chapman nor would they have gotten him in a Miller trade. I don't know what makes you think the Angels could get him, but you're delusional.

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22 Aug 2016 19:49:22
As all of you guys know. I usually post TIGERS trades. I know all of you guys say the TIGERS don't have the farm system to get deals done but that don't mean they don't carry value to other teams

I came up with 5 trades with 4 being 3 team trades and the other just a 2 team trade

prospect rankings come from mlb. com

(tex) SP M. Matuella (15) + RP T. Ferguson (26) + IF Y. Yrizarri (20)
(sf) OF D. Davis (17)

Rangers get:
(sf) SP C. Taylor (27) + RP S. Okert (11) + OF R. Jebavy (29)
(det) 1B V. Martinez + IF Mid Level PTBNL + OF T. Collins

Giants get:
(det) SP M. Boyd
(tex) IF J. Profar

TIGERS add young players to help that Poor farm system and by trading Boyd and Victor to do so. it may be worth it. saves about $16.0 million

RANGERS add young players too that can help quick and adding Victor to replace fielder at DH would be a cheaper route then getting a FA

GIANTS add a young ML ready pitcher in Boyd who can be a starter or a long reliever and profar who can play any infield position and perhaps start at third since they surprisingly traded Duffy

(oak) 3B M. Chapman (4)
(stl) RP T. Rosenthal

A's Get:
(stl) IF M. Carpenter
(det) SP A. Sanchez + OF A. Hose

Cardinals get:
(det) SP A. Lewicki (23) + RP J. Labourt (13) + OF J. Upton
(oak) SP G. Holmes (3/ 78) + RP S. Doolittle + 3B D. Valencia + OF L. Armenteros (12)

TIGERS add a 3B with power and Rosenthal to help the bullpen and bring stability to the bullpen

A's add Carpenter who can be inserted at 3B or 2B or even 1B. depending on where they want to play him

Cardinals add young players and 3 vet pieces (upton, Doolittle and Valencia) and all can help now and since Holliday is most likely gone, upton will replace him

(phi) C A. Knapp (12) + 1B R. Haskins (13)
(lad) RP L. Avilan

Phillies get:
(lad) OF Y. Puig
(det) SP M. Pelfrey + RP A. Wilson + RP B. Hardy + 1B D. Ficociello (30)

Dodgers get:
(det) OF S. Moya
(phi) SP M. Appel (11)

Tigers add a more rounded catcher then McCann would be for the TIGERS needs and Haskins can help with his power and avilan can help the bullpen

Phillies add Puig who has a drop in value but still has a high level of talent and a change of team and reach that level and the Phillies also add a veteran pitcher in pelfrey and two reliable RP in Wilson and hardy and also ficociello who is a good fielding 1b

Dodgers add 2 young players who can contribute at a high level but can work on a few things to become stars whic they have potential to get there and both are a good value for trading puig

(hou) 1B J. Singleton
(was) SP G. Gonzalez

Astros get:
(was) IF A. Rendon
(DET) SP T. Alexander (7) + RP M. Lowe + RP P. Voelker (29)

NATS get:
(DET) SP K. Ziomek (11) + RP G. Moreno (23) + IF M. Shepherd (29) + OF M. Gerber (8)
(hou) SP F. Martes (3/ 36) + 3B C. Moran (11)

TIGERS add a another young power hitting 1B to team with Haskins (from the phi-lad trade) and Gonzalez to stabilize the back end of the rotation

Astros add a player who is from Texas and can play at 3B where the Astros have the biggest need in the IF since Reed will be at 1B and both 2B and SS not going anywhere and they also get a young SP who can pitch long into games and can get a lot of strikeouts and Lowe who is not far removed from a dominate year

NATS add 6 young players who can contribute at various levels the Nats need and all are near ML ready

Trade 5) DET - MIL
SP M. Garza + RP F. Peralta (21) + OF R. Braun
Brewers add:
SP D. Norris + RP K. Ryan + RP A. Ravenelle (20) + IF A. Simcox (17) + 3B N. Castellanos + OF C. Stewart (3)

TIGERS add another rotation piece in Garza who is under control thru next year with a cheap option th at vests but if it don't then its a $5 million option I believe and a RP prospect for the future and the main piece in the trade Braun who would take Uptons spot on the team

Brewers add 7 young talented players who most are already ML ready with Norris, Castellanos and McCann as the main pieces and the others are a year away with ryan being able to help in the bullpen

FREE AGENCY (following the 5 trades)
- SP/ RP T. Lincecum
1 year $5,000,000
($5,000,000 incentives)
($15,000,000 mutual option w/ $2,500,000 buyout)
- RP G. Holland
1 year $10,000,000
($15,000,000 player option w/ $2,500,000 buyout)
- RP A. Alburquerque
1 year minor league deal
($1,250,000 in majors w/ $1,250,000 mutual ML option)
- C Matt Wieters
3 year $60,000,000
($15,000,000 mutual option)
(opt out after year 2)
- 1B/ OF E. Thames
1 year $2,000,000
($3,000,000 club option w/ $500,000 buyout)
- OF Austin Jackson
1 year $6,000,000
($6,500,000 mutual option w/ $1,500,000 buyout)
- 1B/ OF Jose Bautista
4 year $80,000,000
($20,000,000 vesting option)
(early opt out after yr 1)

I know it's a lot of options or opt outs but that's what I feel is better for the team and/ or player as it can benefit both sides IF the player is either playing great or bad

Lincecum can be helpful but should move to the bullpen where he can pitch better in less time since he is near his end as a frontline SP

Holland is another piece added to the bullpen to team with K-rod who will be back using the option on his deal and Rosenthal from a trade I put up

Alburquerque was good for the TIGERS and just really pitch bad on other teams so bringing him back on a minors deal can help him and the TIGERS

Wieters may not be tagged with the qualifying offer after a down year so the TIGERS can grab him and put him as the starter since McCann is going to be gone by my trade above and an opt out after yr 2 is better since next years FA class for catchers is better then two years from now

Thames is having 2 great years in the foreign league he's in so sign him to a deal in hopes he can carry that over and be platooning with either singleton or Haskins as the backup 1B or 5th OF

Jackson who just like Albuquerque played his best years with the TIGERS and coming back on a 1 yr deal can benefit he TIGERS and math in could be a FA at the same time next year but a prospect named derrick hill should be ready then

Bautista just like wieters may not get tagged with the qualifying offer after the down year so a deal with a player opt out would help Bautista since opt outs are more common now

C: M. Wieters
1B: M. Cabrera
2B: I. Kinsler
SS: J. Iglesias
3B: J. Jones or M. Chapman or D. Machado
LF: R. Braun
CF: C. Maybin / A. Jackson
RF: J. Martinez
DH: J. Bautista

C: A. Knapp
IF: J. Jones or M. Chapman or D. Machado
OF: C. Maybin / A. Jackson
U: E. Thames or J. Singleton

SP1: J. Zimmermann
SP2: J. Verlander
SP3: M. Fulmer
SP4: G. Gonzalez
SP5: M. Garza

LR: T. Lincecum
MR1: J. Jimenez or L. Avilan or B. Rondon or A. Alburquerque
MR2: J. Jimenez or L. Avilan or B. Rondon or A. Alburquerque
MR3: J. Wilson
SU1: G. Holland
SU2: T. Rosenthal
CL: F. Rodriguez

1) 2B I. Kinsler
2) RF J. Martinez
3) 1B M. Cabrera
4) DH J. Bautista
5) LF R. Braun
6) C M. Wieters
7) CF C. Maybin / A. Jackson
8) 3B J. Jones / M. Chapman / D. Machado
9) SS J. Iglesias.

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22 Aug 2016 20:43:20
cookie, what a complete waste of time. It's one of your worst post ever. First I'll start with the Lincecum signing. Its so laughable that the moment it would happen a GM would be fired. Did you see his stats with the Angels? ERA in the 9's. 5 million with another 10 in incentives is a complete joke. That first trade is awful, no one trade 3 prospects for one. Trade 2 makes no sense for any of the teams. Not going to read your convoluted logic on it. Same goes for trade 3. And the Dodgers have been trying to just give Puig away and no one wants him. Again the same goes for trade 4. And all this prospect rankings is irrelevant, Tigers' system sucks and just because a player has a high ranking in their system doesn't mean they have the same ranking in a team with a top tier system. Holland is coming of TJ, no way does he make 10 mil guaranteed. Wieters will probably get 4-5 years and Batista will get more than 20 million with no opt outs.

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22 Aug 2016 23:49:58
BATMAN i'm surprised you read the whole thing i saw the first trade and it was way to complicated and i just scrolled down.

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23 Aug 2016 01:04:48
You don't understand how three team trades work, do you? Your first one is simply a couple of two team trades. It's simply 3 different trades: DET/ SF, DET/ TEX, TEX/ SF.

Also, that Nationals trade is awful. Why on earth would Washington even consider that? They are giving up a mid-rotation arm and a very good infielder and getting marginal prospects they don't even need. Their farm system is among the best in baseball.

And anyone who gives Tim Lincecum that kind of money deserves to be mocked for eternity. That guy's career is over.

And for the millionth time, NOT EVERY PLAYER SIGNS A DAMN OPTION. Especially not guys who won't even get MLB contracts.

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23 Aug 2016 02:16:22
I didn't just skimmed over it.

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23 Aug 2016 02:34:33
Someone wasted a lot of time coming up with that fantasy.

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23 Aug 2016 02:54:13
This is by far one of the worst posts on this site
Trade 1: Tigers get less than they could with Martinez
Trade 2: A complete salary dump for Detroit which neither other team would do
Trade 3: Philly would never get Puig and Detroit has no business in the trade anyways.
Trade 4: Washington is NOT rebuilding
Trade 5: The Brewers get 7 prospects when they're better off getting 3 or four of MUCH better value
You still don't understand the Tigers have a horrible system and little value whatsoever yet you did nothing to fix it while STILL trying to pretend Detroit's pieces have value. Martinez has the best value yet you completely undersold him. And finally the Tigers sign a bunch of free agents and magically contend for the title with a barely changed farm system.

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23 Aug 2016 12:30:13
The only "prospect" in the Tigers system that has some value is Stephan Moya but i don't see them willing to trade him. I see him being a lineup regular as soon as Victor Martinez is done Moya would move to an everyday role and he has earned it in my opinion. Do the only player who isn't really a prospect anymore that is worth something they are unwilling to trade. They just need to trade some vets like Kinsler and give Machado a shot at the every day role. I see them only keeping Cabrera Upton Martinez Verlander Zimmerman and Rodriguez as well as their younger players but other than that see what you could get for them.

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23 Aug 2016 14:59:35
The Tigers opportunity to trade guys to get a good return prospect wise is closing. Most of the players they have are in the mid 30s, its something they really should consider doing. But they won't since they have an old delusional owner. Secondly cookie acknowledges the Tigers farm is weak, but then says that doesn't mean the prospects don't have value to other teams. That could be true, but they don't hold the same value as higher ranked farm systems. You know say the Tigers #10 prospect is no where close to being equal to the Red Sox number 10 prospect. This is what cookie doesn't seem to get, ever. It greatly impacts their ability to acquire top talent. They don't have Dombrowski anymore to con other teams in trades.

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23 Aug 2016 20:36:44
Next time you do a Tigers trade please have it be a rebuilding one for the sake of the future of your team. If it's as easy to sign free agents in Detroit as you make it seem then they could surely take take a year or even two to build up the system to make themselves better in the future. Just look at my Red Sox.

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25 Aug 2016 05:35:01
I promise. the next post i put up will be ones where the tigers rebuild and as much as i hate to say, ill even include a verlander one and maybe a miggy one. lol

I have a verlander one in mind but trading a player like him and what he means to the team and city. also the same goes for miggy

But ill put one up for them both

I hate this. lol.

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25 Aug 2016 08:04:43
"I promise. the next post i put up will be ones where the tigers rebuild and as much as i hate to say, ill even include a verlander one and maybe a miggy one. "

Or you could spare yourself and us the time.

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21 Aug 2016 23:26:49
Mariners acquire

Danny Valencia

Athletics acquire

Drew Jackson
DJ Peterson.

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22 Aug 2016 13:51:05
Could happen especially after the locker room brawl with Butler.

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23 Aug 2016 02:55:18
I don't think Valencia has that much value especially after his little incident.

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21 Aug 2016 18:04:21
Here is one that makes some sense for the off-season.

Tampa Bay sends LHP Drew Smyly to Cincinnati.

Reds send CF Billy Hamilton to the Rays.

Smyly teams with Homer Bailey to lead the rotation for a rebuilding Reds team.

Hamilton provides a spark for a Rays' offense that desperately needs one.

Other guys might be included for balance, but that is the start of the deal.

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21 Aug 2016 18:42:20
I like the start of the deal. Starting pitching being at a premium is important and should be respected and you do so with the inclusion of the statement that this is the start of a deal. it's more than a start, imho. there may be some minor additions, but the basic deal starts with what you've posted.

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21 Aug 2016 23:40:54
The Rays need offense and will likely trade pitchers to get it. Only problem is Hamilton provides speed not hitting. Even if he steals 100 bases a year, it doesn't make up for the fact that their hitting is horrible and could get a good a good hitter for Smyly like Jake McGee for Corey Dickerson.

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22 Aug 2016 02:51:19
^Smyly and Hamilton have similar value. Yes, Hamilton is a bad hitter, but overall, Smyly hasn't been very good either. If Smyly was having a year similar to last year, then yes, he would get a great package.

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22 Aug 2016 12:21:47
The only issue Is that the Rays have Kermire Suza and Dickerson so I see them trying to trade for a catcher like Derick Norris or a true 1st baseman. The rays are only a few pieces away from being good. They have solid pieces in Longoria Keirmire Suza and Dickerson as well as the new addition of Matt Duffy who will most likely play SS for them.

A lineup of
Forsyth 2nd
Duffy SS
Longoria 3rd
Dickerson DH
Suza LF
Norris C
Morison 1st
Keirmire CF
Jennings RF

And they have the pitching depth to still be good as well.

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22 Aug 2016 12:46:51
^The Rays aren't taking Derek Norris over Billy Hamilton.

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22 Aug 2016 23:19:40
Sull, it isn't THAT hard to spell out the names of the players.

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20 Aug 2016 18:25:04
Twins trade:

Hector Santiago
John Ryan Murphy (AAA Rochester)

Rays trade:

Brent Honeywell (#2 Rays prospect)
Xavier Cedeno
Easton McGee (#24 Rays Prospect)

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20 Aug 2016 19:06:46
I am a Twins fan, but why would Tampa Bay do this?

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20 Aug 2016 21:50:25
This would be a ridiculous overpay from the Rays.

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21 Aug 2016 05:04:01
Santiago has an ERA in the stratosphere his last 5 starts or so. He won't net anything worth of value.

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21 Aug 2016 23:42:07
If the Rays trade that package it will be for a good hitter not an average mid-rotation starter and a backup catcher.

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20 Aug 2016 02:06:05
A change of an earlier trade I put up

SP Z. Grienke
RP J. Sherfy (16)

SP M. Boyd
RP J. Labourt (13)
IF A. Simcox (17)
OF C. Stewart (3)

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20 Aug 2016 04:33:56
Yeah because that package can get a pitcher who is one year removed from being the best pitcher in the game.

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20 Aug 2016 04:34:09
The Tigers aren't going to get Greinke. The Dbacks would be dumb to give up on him this early.

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20 Aug 2016 05:47:47
just like the Padres fire buying to fire sale in a year. it's possible but unlikely

I just want my tigers to do something.

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20 Aug 2016 06:41:44
The biggest name that COULD get traded right now is probably Puig, but teams aren't interested. Waiver trades like the Red Sox-Dodgers one in 2012 are awfully rare. Wait until the offseason and "your tigers" will do something.

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20 Aug 2016 06:53:42
The only way I could see Detroit landing Greinke is in a salary dump. But with Verlander, Cabrera, and others making absurd money for many years yet, I can't see it.

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20 Aug 2016 13:02:22
cookie, i really don't know how many times i have to tell you that the farm system of the Tigers is awful, they can't acquire anyone significant. You're system prospect rankings you have next to names is rather irrelevant. The only way to get someone like Grienke is how theJerk said a salary dump. But they already have enough big contracts that they really shouldn't take another on.

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18 Aug 2016 20:04:39
Yankees trade: OF Brett Gardner

Marlins trade: SP Luis Castillo (#5 Marlins Prospect), SP Austin Brice (#9 Marlins Prospect)

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18 Aug 2016 21:02:22
putting the organizational rankings for Marlins prospects is irrelevant since they have a terrible farm system. Castillo may appear on the Yankees top 30 at the end of it, Brice wouldn't even crack 40.

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18 Aug 2016 20:01:45
Cardinals trade: Sandy Alcantara

Braves trade: Jim Johnson.

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18 Aug 2016 22:23:07
Johnson won't be traded. He was pulled back off of waivers.

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18 Aug 2016 19:58:51
Padres trade: Derek Norris

Mets trade: Marcos Molina, Gabriel Ynoa.

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19 Aug 2016 01:05:56
I don't think Derek Norris has very much trade value, but good grief you undersold him.

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19 Aug 2016 11:34:49
I wish the Braves could get him for Chris Ellis and Manny Banuelos.

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19 Aug 2016 13:46:02
Banuelos was DFA'd.

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18 Aug 2016 19:56:12
Yankees trade: OF Brett Gardner

Indians trade: SP Trevor Bauer.

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19 Aug 2016 02:26:16
Yep, Indians would definetly trade a budding superstar for an old outfielder who isn't as good as he used to be.


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19 Aug 2016 02:46:34
Indians say no. Quickly.

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17 Aug 2016 02:59:37
An interesting trade idea I came up with for the Tigers and Snacks

Tigers get:
SP Zach Grienke
RP Jimmie Sherfy (#15 prospect)

DBacks get:
SP Anibal Sanchez
IF Low level Prospect PTBNL
OF Justin Upton

TIGERS add a top SP to have with Verlander, Zimmermann and Fulmer. this would allow the TIGERS to get an OF since it's a deep market in free agency

DBACKS add a SP who May just need a change of scenery to get back to his old self and Upton returns to ARI where he played his best as a pro and another prospect.

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17 Aug 2016 05:40:33
Pretty sure the relationship between the D Backs and Upton is terrible.

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17 Aug 2016 11:53:07
Who are the Snacks?

Reminds me of the TV commercial a few years ago, where the guy is painting the end zone for the Chiefs and leaves out the "i. "

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17 Aug 2016 13:42:13
that is a terrible idea.

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17 Aug 2016 15:27:28
No way the Dbacks do that trade, Anibal and Upton are horrible and Upton doesn't have a spot, so might as well just keep Greinke. Also, the free agent market is incredibly weak.

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19 Aug 2016 02:59:12
my phone autofilled snacks for DBacks


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