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MLB Rumors February 01 2015

01 Feb 2015 03:46:44
I don't know if this is likely but red sox are looking to move Mujica and you can never have enough bullpen
Pirates trade: Cody Dickson LHP, Clay Holmes RHP
Red sox trade: Edward Mujica, and cash or PTBNL
Deal makes sense for both sides pirates get a bullpen guy who had a good 2nd half last year and proved he can pitch in the nl central

31 Jan 2015 10:26:20
Mariners trade Tiajuan walker, Tyler pike and Chris Taylor to Colorado for Troy Tulowitski
Sign James Shields 5yrs 85mill

Lineup:
1. Austin Jackson CF
2. Troy Tulowitski SS
3. Robinson Cano 2B
4. Nelson Cruz DH/ RF
5. Kyle Seager 3B
6. Logan Morrison 1B
7. Seth Smith/ Justin Ruggiano RF/DH
8. Dustin Ackley LF
9. Mike Zunino C
Bench:
Brad Miller SS
Endy Chavez RF
Jesus Montero C/DH
Willie Bloomquist LF/SS/3B/2B/RF
Jesus Sucre C

Rotation:
1.Felix Hernandez
2. Hisashi Iwakuma
3. James Paxton
4. James Shields
5. J.A. Happ

Shields will sign elsewhere. And Tulowitzki is not getting trade.

And Shields wouldn't be a 4th starter

31 Jan 2015 04:23:27
Royals-Braves trade:

Royals get: Tehran

Braves get: Jeorge Bonifacio, Christian Colon

This works out well because this gives the royals someone to replace shields as the number one starter with a lot of years of team control

The Braves are rebuilding and this gives them 2 young prospects that are 2 of their top 10 prospects and George plays outfeild which is now a position of need for them and Chritian is a 2nd baseman which has been a position of need ever science uggla began to fail

This is why I think this trade works.
I know I will still get crap for it though.

This would never happen and even if talks started it would take a lot more than that.

31 Jan 2015 07:03:30
Nope.

The Braves may be rebuilding, but they aren't trading everyone. Teharan has a team friendly contract, and is their ace.

You're right, Sull, you will catch crap over this. Two prospects for an ace? Nope.

LongtimeBaseballFan

What would it take then because with no shildes the royals have no ace
They had lost other players to free agency but they have already replaced them so all they need is an ace

01 Feb 2015 04:32:39
Maybe they'll trade for MadBum.

01 Feb 2015 05:09:31
Crazysull would trade his cookies for celery sticks at lunch time in school. your trades are pretty bad dude, just saying.

01 Feb 2015 10:05:38
I don't think the Royals need an ace, they have Finnegan, Herrera, Davis, and Holland in the bullpen, let's say Phillies trade papelbon and let's say amaro realizes that he needs to trade hamels the Royals could trade Herrera or Davis and prospects to get him

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30 Jan 2015 11:49:52
Mariners trade James Paxton, Gabriel Gurrero and Tyler Pike to Philadelphia for Cole Hamels and Ryan Howard+20million

Trade Chris Taylor and 3 low level prospects to Washington doe Ian Desmond

Resign Joe Biemel 1yr 2 million

Lineup:
1. Austin Jackson CF
2. Dustin Ackley LF
3. Robinson Cano 2B
4. Nelson Cruz DH/ RF
5. Kyle Seager 3B
6. Logan Morrison 1B
7. Seth Smith/ Justin Ruggiano RF
8. Mike Zunino C
9. Ian Desmond SS
Bench:
Ryan Howard 1B/DH
Brad Miller SS
Jesus Sucre C
Endy Chavez RF
Willie Bloomquist RF/SS/3B/2B/LF
Rotation:
1. Felix Hernandez RP
2. Cole Hamels LP
3. Hisashi Iwakuma RP
4. J.A. Happ LP
5. Tiajuan Walker RP
Bullpen:
Charlie Fusbush LP
Tom Whilhelsmsen RP
Danny Farquar RP
Yoervis Medina RP
Joe Biemel LP
Carson Smith LP
Fernando Rodney RP

Why bother with howard if you have him on the bench unless you are planning to trade him

That offer will not be enough to get Hamels. According to the reports we've all read, the Phils won't trade him unless they get a great offer. If they were willing to accept a package of that caliber, I believe he would already be a Red Sox.

I would think the Phillies would want Walker in addition to Paxton, and still others are needed. what's the point of trading for Howard if he is just going to sit on the bench. He still be productive as a DH.

28 Jan 2015 21:46:06
Seattle- Gregg zaun, Tolleson, Jenkins, Lind , Reyes, Dickey

Jays- Cano, Seager, Hernandez

Cano and Hernandez and both overrated and there best years are behind them and any smart GM would see that. Mariners are getting all of there needs including a Great shortstop in Reyes and a veteran presence in Zaun.

29 Jan 2015 01:39:37
Surely you can't be serious.

Gregg Zaun hasn't played a game since 2010.

29 Jan 2015 01:42:10
Worst trade I've ever seen, this makes crazysull's posts look above average. So many things wrong mariners will never do this deal in a billion years. The fact that you said cano and Hernandez are overrated and past their prime made me lol Hernandez should've won the cy young and cano Hernandez Seager are allstars

I don't say this lightly, but this may be the dumbest proposal I've ever seen. Please, just stop.

LongtimeBaseballFan

So you think Canos best years are behind him. Really
By the time his contract is running out yes.Not now
If anything I would worry more about Reyes best years behind him as speed is a big part of his game
The turf is not helping him either
He would last longer on grass

So much wrong. Zaun is retired, Lind is on the Brewers, and even then, this trade doesn't come even kind of near the realm of close to the value of these players. And Seattle would never trade any of them anyway.

29 Jan 2015 12:57:54
I have never seen a trade this bad. This is just that big pile of crap Billy Beane was referring to in Moneyball.

29 Jan 2015 18:42:34
The most obvious troll post.

So settlers best three players for garbage, an over the hill shortstop, and a knuckleballer? This has to be a joke

Why did everyone bother to comment on this.

28 Jan 2015 12:16:37
Reid-Foley, Jenkins, Tolleson
for
Hochevar

Navarro, Delabar
for
Prospect

That's a lot for a RP who might not be completely healthy. And What prospect would that package be bringing? If it's high level than that is too little if it is medium that is probably good and if it is low than that is a dumb trade for the Jays.

28 Jan 2015 01:26:00
Cardinals sign Shields 4/85. Gives them 3rd best rotation in baseball and moves Martinez back to the bullpen therefore strengthening it
Wainwright
Shields
Lynn
Wacha
Lackey

Cards don't need Shields.

LongtimeBaseballFan

30 Jan 2015 00:43:12
Why would they want Shields? The guy is toast.

I wouldn't call that hypothetical rotation the 3rd best in baseball.

28 Jan 2015 00:21:30
TOR gets Jonathan Papelbon and $10M
PHI gets 2 High-A prospects: OF Dwight Smith and RHP Robert Osuna.

28 Jan 2015 06:21:56
Papelbon AND part of his contract paid. Philly will demand a lot more in return for both of those.

No thanks from T.O

I'm a Phillies fan and, while I don't disagree with you Nate, I am hopeful Amaro will realize he needs to make deals like this in order to move forward. These are 2 decent prospects who will help our depth. But the main thing we get from this deal is moving Pap's awful contract.

28 Jan 2015 18:05:01
It's not like Papelbon has been awful. In fact, I'd call him a top 5 closer in baseball.

Trading him and eating a portion of his contract isn't necessary unless you're getting a better return. we're not dealing with Ryan Howard here.

As a closer your right he's near the top as a person he's a major liability

That is too much for Papelbon. Its why talks have gone no where with teams. Amaro simply wants to much.

27 Jan 2015 22:56:14
This is just an idea that I came up with, not rumors or anything, want to hear opinions. Which is what I thought this site was for.

Nationals trade Ian Desmond

Padres trade Jed Gyorko, Joaquin Benoit, Alex Dickerson, and a ptbnl

28 Jan 2015 06:23:25
This seems like a lateral move for San Diego. they improve their infield by giving up probably their only decent infielder?

If I'm Washington, I take it and never, ever, ever look back.

This was based off of another idea of the padres potential to signing Olivera.

Even if they do not, Spangenberg showed at the end of last season that he is more than capable of playing in the bigs.

Also, it fills the padres biggest need in a SS with desmond and also helps out the Padres in salary this season with Benoit's 7 mill and Gyorko just signed a 7 mill a year extension.

28 Jan 2015 18:10:25
That extension is front-loaded. he make $2M this year, $4M in 2016, and $6M in 2017. Desmond makes $11M this year. Gyorko will make that over the next 3.

And then there's the fact that they're giving up 4 controllable contracts for 1 expiring contract.

28 Jan 2015 18:48:25
Correction: Gyorko's extension is back-loaded, not front-loaded.

Which ultimately is $35 million, compared to an expiring of Desmond who could be resigned around the same price if not a little more with a better chance of winning this year and having a cheaper 2B in Spangenberg who they used a 1st round pick on or potentially getting Olivera. I would absolutely take that.

Benoit is also an expiring contract, Dickerson does not have a spot on the roster with Alonso, Medica, Goebbert all in front of him and the outfield being full. In this, i'd expect the ptbnl would not be a prospect but just a throw in minor leaguer.

Also, if they do this and lose out on Olivera, Spangenberg is a left handed bat which is needed in this lineup and could lead off.

And an infield of Middlebrooks, Desmond, Olivera/Spangenberg, Alonso looks a lot better than
Middlebrooks, Amarista, Gyorko, Alonso

28 Jan 2015 22:02:09
Middlebrooks might not even be on the 25-man roster. it was damn near comical that they ever traded for him. 3B will be Solarte, who isn't all that much better than Middlebrooks, IMO.

28 Jan 2015 22:04:17
Also, you think Desmond could sign for a similar amount to what Gyorko signed? You're crazy.

Desmond will sign for about $15M AAV in the open market on about a 5-6 year deal.

I'd take Gyorko's $35M and trade Spangenberg LONNNNGGGG before I overpay Olivera and/or Desmond. Like, it's not even a question at this point.

28 Jan 2015 23:40:02
With the Nats signing Benoit, you'll have to try again.

29 Jan 2015 05:58:40
^^^Correction: With Nats signing Janssen, you'll have to try again.

27 Jan 2015 22:27:52
May have posted something irrelevant earlier, and I apologize for that. Here's a trade idea (I'll stop with the Twins after this one)

TWINS GET: Austin Bibens-Dirkx, Arik Sikula
BLUE JAYS GET: Brian Duensing

Might be too much or too little, if you object please let me know. Thanks!

28 Jan 2015 06:24:46
Duensing is a quality LH reliever. why would Minnesota give him up? (I'm also a diehard Nebraska fan. so I might be biased with Duensing.

Jays have Loup and Cecil as their LH relievers

28 Jan 2015 13:25:49
There has been some rumblings around that they're looking to call up Nick Burdi in May-June, and they could make some room for him by dealing a reliever, it may not be Duensing, but there's a strong chance it could be since he's a free agent after 2015

27 Jan 2015 22:23:27
Mets get Ian Desmond

Nationals get Mookie Betts, Rafael Montero, Daniel Murphy, Kevin Plawecki, and Craig Breslow

Red Sox get Stephen Strasburg

28 Jan 2015 04:59:53
Highly unlikely red sox aren't trading Betts and nationals aren't trading any starting pitchers right now.

Mets are not trading Plawecki for a one year rental
They will trade him for a shortstop that is under control
Montero is possible but I doubt Nats need him
No shortstop is comming to the Mets this year
Flores will be just fine

28 Jan 2015 07:12:12
That seems like such a lateral move for the Mets. If they get a SS, they probably wouldn't give up Murphy to get one. otherwise, they'll be in the same spot they are in now, just with a hole at 2B.

Herrera is the 2b of the future (and possibly present) not murphy^

27 Jan 2015 18:47:23
Trade ideas:

PHILLIES: Cole Hamels
CARDINALS: Peter Bourjos, Stephen Piscotty, Rob Kaminsky

ROCKIES: Charlie Blackmon
ORIOLES: Bud Norris, Tim Berry (LP pitching prospect)

MARLINS: Steve Cishek
BREWERS: Kodi Medeiros, Luis Sardinas

The Cardinals can offer more than what you suggested for Hamels. I don't think the Marlins are trading Cishek and I don't think the Brewers are trading Sardinas who they just got.

27 Jan 2015 22:44:38
The Marlins trade doesn't make much sense. With Gordon and Hechavarria, the Marlins infield is pretty much set.

Colorado would want more for Blackmon.

Philly would want more for Hamels.

I don't think the Cards have enough prime prospects to get Hamels. Piscotty is okay, but he's probably not more than an average regular.

27 Jan 2015 17:27:04
Jays get shields, dyson

Royals get dickey, Norris, goins

Uhhh, Shields is a free agent.

This makes no sense.

LongtimeBaseballFan

27 Jan 2015 15:34:42
Jays trade Aaron loup Mark Redmond Steve delabar to the royals for Greg Holland, wade Davis
Anything anyone else can think of to make this happen for the jays to acquire both these relievers or even one of them? If you don't think my trade is good enough

Calling your trade "not good enough" would be the biggest understatement of the year. To get ONE of Holland or Davis, Daniel Norris has to go. There's no way KC trades both of them.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

The Royals could trade one of those guys, but not both.

LongtimeBaseballFan

Redmond, Delabar, Jenkins
for
Davis

The Royals aren't gutting their pen.

27 Jan 2015 15:23:41
Reds trade Cueto

BoSox trade Owens and Betts OR Bogarts

For one year of Cueto? No.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

Never going to happen the Red Sox are not trading Betts for anyone

Sox could get Hammels for those 2 plus a mid level prospect
Why Cueto the FA to be
Don't think Sox want to give up both or Hammels trade would have happened
That's my thoughts

Cueto for Owens and Deven Marrero? Maybe.

LongtimeBaseballFan

27 Jan 2015 02:00:14
Jays trade Ryan goins, steve delabar Chad Jenkins, to the d backs for Aaron hill Randall Delgado and Addison reed.

When LBF, said to start all over again, he didn't mean to suggest to re-post the bad trade and exclude the signing. All of it was bad.

27 Jan 2015 01:57:16
Hey guys! I am a new guy here, and I LOVE the Minnesota Twins! I know my trade ideas won't be the best, but bare with me here haha. I recently thought of this one involving the Cardinals and Twins, but it's highly unlikely due to the Twins liking what they see with Hicks/Schafer. SO, let's stop with the hi how are ya's and talk some trades.

TWINS GET: Peter Bourjos
CARDINALS GET: Mike Pelfrey, Jason Adam.

It's not the BEST, as stated above, but if you object, please voice your opinion below. Thanks guys!

Seems like a decent offer to me. If the Twins aren't sold on Hicks (and why should they be) Bourjos would be a decent alternative. This sure beats some of the more fantasy-oriented posts here.

27 Jan 2015 16:38:09
Not bad. The Cardinals get a innings-eater/6th starting option. the Twins get outfield help.

The more I look at this and evaluate the stats, the more I see that this could be a really, really good trade.

Good job.

Thank you!

27 Jan 2015 22:14:54
I might've posted a topic instead of a reply, my apologies. Thank you guys!

Isn't Pelfrey fighting for the 5 th spot in the rotation

26 Jan 2015 15:37:17
NY Mets get D Santana

Twins get Gee and C Mizzoni

Sorry that's Mazzoni

26 Jan 2015 23:05:19
People aren't just going to give the Mets a shortstop.

26 Jan 2015 06:30:16
Blue jays sign James shields and John afford. Then trade Ryan goins Steve delabar drew Hutchison. Chad jenkins. To d backs for aaron hill randal Delgado Trevor Cahill Addison reed.

Not realistic at all

Bagzie, pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.

LongtimeBaseballFan

25 Jan 2015 08:22:28
Phillies get Kole Calhoun, Andrew Heaney and Chris Ellis

Angels get Cole Hamels

No way. Calhoun is the most underated player in the game. Heaney will be an Angel through 2020 and a top pitching prospect who is MLB ready. Which the Angels have been waiting for a while. Ellis was the Third round pick from last years draft, no way they deal him so early. Plus all of them will be cheaper than what Hamels will make in one year.

This is not unfair, but it won't get done, either. The Angels are finally realizing they need to keep their younger guys.

The Phils, to me, match well with Boston for a Hamels trade.

LongtimeBaseballFan

As a Phils fan, I agree they match best with the Red Sox. However, it seems as though the Sox disagree. They don't want to trade top prospects (can't blame them for that) and Phils won't give Hamels up for less.

They can't trade Ellis he was drafted last year. they have to wait a year after he was signed in order to trade him. That's the reason trea turner isn't a national yet because he was drafted last year. only way is to say he's a "player to be named later"

Dream again angels fan

25 Jan 2015 08:05:32
Angels get Tyson Ross

Padres get Kole Calhoun and Joe gatto

Not sure how possible this is, but I feels like it fills a need for both sides

If I recall, don't the Pads already have Kemp, Upton, and Myers for the outfield

Padres need infielders, not OFs. If they acquire an OF, it has to be a centerfielder, and probably a lefty.

LongtimeBaseballFan

Calhoun can play 1b as well as of

The padres do not need outfielders bud try again

Maybe a Aybar+a few other decent pieces would work, but SD doesn't need any more corner outfielders. They could use a defensive minded CF though.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

If the Padres were to trade Tyson Ross to the Angels, CJ Cron would be the starting point with Skaggs or Santiago thrown in and a minor leaguer.

25 Jan 2015 02:17:51
Mets get George Springer

Astros get Noah Syndergaard and Juan Lagares

24 Jan 2015 16:40:48
As most of you know I am a huge Red Sox fan and I still think we need an ace and the one pitcher that I would want to get is madbum(I know that it is totally unlikely) but it is werth a shot so I think we should trade bucholtz and bradly jr along with Owens and marrero for him and a PTBNL I think that is fair I just don't want the sox persute of an ace cost them swinehart because one day he will be batting in the middle of the order for us and would hate to see him go so I think that is good package for madbum and would like to get others opinion on it and if you think it is enough or if you think it could possibly happen just let me know

I know a lot of you guys don't like me so just don't let that biest get in the way of your answer please

The Giants aren't ever going to trade Bumgarner. He will probably sign a long term extension with them. The more you post, the worse your ideas become.

No. Why make up something like this? The Giants won't trade Bumgarner. And even if they did, that lame package would not be nearly enough. Buchholz is a huge risk and Bradley can't hit. The only thing that makes sense in your post is that yes, the Sox still need a #1 pitcher. They could get Shields, but he's really closer to a 2 than a 1. If they want one, they will have to part with top prospects. Or finish in the middle of the pack.

First off, that proposal isn't even a fair return. MadBum is only 25 and already one of the top pithcers in the game, and is cheap. That is worth more than a washed up back of the rotation guy, a couple of fringe prospects, and a guy with a little bit of potential.

24 Jan 2015 20:04:19
This is easily the worst trade idea you've posted to date. This has to be one of the worst I've seen on this site.

Do you actually think this is a good idea or do you just like hearing (reading) yourself talk?

The sox won't sign shields because he is a fly ball pitcher and it worked in kcs big ballpark but he would give up menny hrs if he comes to Boston

Sull, it's not that people don't like you. It's that your proposals are silly, like this one. Use punctuation, bro.

LongtimeBaseballFan

25 Jan 2015 02:53:59
That's fine if you think they won't sign Shields. but to think the Giants will give up MadBum? That's just outrageous.

24 Jan 2015 16:25:27
I know a lot of people won't agree with me with this deal

Sox-cardinals trade:

Sox get: Wacha

Birds get: Owens and Marero

I know this deal isn't likely to happen but It is a good thought and it has the ability to happen and Wacha has the ability to be the ace and it won't take as much to get him as it would to get a Zimmerman or a strausburg or a Hammels but you could possibly get fister for the same amount but either Wacha or fister would work in Boston fister is a ground ball pitcher and Wacha is a line drive pitcher so I think it is a good deal for either team wether it is the Nationals or the red birds

This ain't happening either.

LongtimeBaseballFan

24 Jan 2015 20:11:47
Does it have the ability to happen? Yes, as every one of the players is alive and active in the game.

Is it likely to happen? Maybe about a 1 in a million shot.

Is it a good idea? Is playing with legos in the middle of I-90 a good idea?

Will people make fun of this deal too or does this one appeal to people?

I don't think Wacha is the guy for the Sox. The Cards would demand far more than he is worth(like Swihart-level), an if we trade our blue choppers, it might as well be for Hamels.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

I don't think either Wacha or fister will require swinehart leval prospects so that is what I think they should jump on this idea because it let's them keep their top guy and get a guy that they can sign long term that has ace stuff and still has a fair amount of juice in the tank for a few years here

24 Jan 2015 00:26:46
Brewers trade Luis Sardinas and Tyler Wagner

Phillies trade Jonathan Papelbon and $5 mil

The Brewers could offer a case of Old Milwaukee, and the Phils would gladly accept. Philly just wants the salary off the books at this point.

LongtimeBaseballFan

Decent trade the brewers get a closer and Phillies get a utility guy I like it but I don't think they are trading sardinas since they have just acquired him from texas

23 Jan 2015 18:34:56
James Shields to the Padres.

In an article on hardball talk nbc's website, it was noted that Shields prefers to pitch on the west coast and that he has a house in San Diego. With San Fran slowly moving away from them and since they spent money on Peavy, San Diego will move into that spot.

Also, with the Phillies trading Papelbon, it makes it more likely that Hamels gets traded than they are to keep him. A potential rotation of:
Hamels
Cashner
Shields
Ross
Kennedy
could be pretty fearsome

23 Jan 2015 21:27:24
Or is the Papelbon trade a result of Sandberg's comments about clubhouse mojo?

Well considering they traded byrd, trying to trade lee, hamels, howard, and utley. i'm not so sure its just the mojo.

24 Jan 2015 02:52:28
They are actively trying to trade Utley? I haven't read that anywhere.

They aren't trying to trade Utley. We have been over this. He has stated he wants to go down with the Phillies sinking ship.

24 Jan 2015 15:13:14
Dude, this guy constantly thinks the Padres will get anyone they want. And that everyone will want fringe prospects (Spangenburg) for them.

Natedub is hilarious how he turns into ken Rosenthal all of a sudde . pretty sure you are getting me mixed up with crazysull considering not once have I ever said to trade spangenberg and I've actually always said they would trade gyorko and play spangenberg. c'mon now stop calling people out when you aren't getting any facts straight yourself. and even without Utley, they have or tried trading everyone else .that's good enough for me to put together that amaro is bsing and will lower his asking price

I have heard utleys name in a couple of rumors tossed around but if you knew how to read, not once did I say to read for him. and I'm pretty sure I always said keep spangenberg trade gyorko. but of course leave it to a giants fan to troll padres fans on a rumors board. also, I am one of the few that actually called the padres getting both kemp and Upton. soo sureee let's just say that I think they can get anyone

01 Feb 2015 12:49:24
Your exact words: "Well considering they traded byrd, trying to trade lee, hamels, howard, and utley. i'm not so sure its just the mojo"

You said they are trying to trade Utley. I called you out. Batman called you out. And so you back into a corner and try to use the, "I called both Upton and Kemp to the Padres" card to try and look infallible.

I'm not trolling you, by the way, you just keep coming up with awful proposals and act like the Padres can get anyone and everyone, at no real cost to them. Come up with better stuff and you won't get this.

23 Jan 2015 05:04:40
how about this:

TIGERS - NATIONALS

TIGERS GETS:
SP STEPHEN STRASBURG

NATIONALS GETS:
RP BLAINE HARDY
C ALEX AVILA
1B JORDAN LENNERTON
OF TYLER COLLINS

TIGERS GET A REPLACEMENT IN THE ROTATION SINCE SCHERZER IS WITH THE NATIONALS AND THEY GIVE UP HARDY WHO IS GOOD RP BUT WITH THE TIGERS GETTING GORZELANNY, HARDY CAN BE EXPENDABLE plus AVILA CAN BE TRADED SINCE he's A FREE AGENT AFTER THIS YEAR AND HE CAN GET AN EXTENSION WITH THE NATIONALS, LENNERTON CAN BE AN INSURRANCE PLAN AT 1B AND COLLINS CAN BE THE 4TH OF FOR THE TEAM AND GET A BETTER CHANCE TO PLAY THERE THEN IN DETROIT

NATIONALS GET RID OF THE JAM IN THE ROTATION AND STRASBURG CAN BRING MORE IN RETURN THEN ZIMMERMAN AND FISTER SINCE STRASBURG HAS 1 EXTRA YEAR ON HIS CONTRACT AND WITH HAVING SCHERZER, THEY WONT BE ABLE TO RESIGN STRASBURG CAUSE THEY WOULD NEED TO CONSIDER EXTENDING HARPER INSTEAD

THE TIGERS CAN THEN EXTEND 3 PLAYERS:
STRASBURG TO A 5 YEAR $100 MILLION DEAL
PRICE TO A 5 YEAR $120 MILLION DEAL
CESPEDES TO A 4 YEAR $60 MILLION DEAL

BUT EXTENDING STRASBURG AND PRICE FOR ONLY $10 MILLION MORE THEN WHAT SCHERZER GOT IN MONEY WISE WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT BETTER

23 Jan 2015 05:42:28
Your caps lock is on.

23 Jan 2015 06:00:57
So many things wrong with this nationals aren't trading Strasburg, if they did they'd get a better deal than what you posted. Price will most likely get 7 years and 180-200M cespedes will get 5/75 and Strasburg should get 6/120-155

Detroit doesn't have the farm system to acquire Strasburg. They have basically traded most of their valuable pieces over the last few years. The ones they do have, they don't sound like they are trading them. Next the extensions. With Boras as Strasburg's agent he will certainly get more than 5 years and 100 million. Price will certainly get a 7 year contract. And Cespedes is going to be a free agent. Not saying he won't resign with them. But the way his contract is structured he will be a Free Agent.

The Tigers simply do not have the prospects to make a trade of that caliber. that's the case for any of the Nationals starters. Some team, such as Boston, would blow that offer away.

That proposal is an embarrassment.

LongtimeBaseballFan

24 Jan 2015 20:05:32
^^^Understatement of the decade.

23 Jan 2015 00:09:57
I just read an interesting proposal from FanGraphs (Dave Cameron), here it is.

BOS-WSH

Red Sox get - SP Stephen Strasburg
Nationals get - 2B/OF Mookie Betts

Why?
Well, Boston gets a cost controlled ace to their rotation, and help clear some outfield space.

Washington gets a second baseman of the future, while still keeping the best rotation in baseball.

It is extremely unlikely, but it would be fair for both sides.

23 Jan 2015 02:26:05
I'm not sure I agree that it's fair for both sides. Boston would serve well to add an extra piece in the deal.

I'm a Sox fan, and I feel they'd have to give the Nats more. Perhaps Betts and Owens?

LongtimeBaseballFan

Boston needs to add a lot more

The thing about these sites that have proposals for trades is they are never enough. I feel they are just starting points. Because the Nationals would never trade Strasburgh for just one prospect.

FanGraphs is notoriously slanted towards prospects. This deal has utterly no chance.

This would probably be a fair deal(remember, Strasburg only has two years of control left, and is almost certain to hit the open market, so his value is limited somewhat) but I think both sides would balk at it.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

22 Jan 2015 23:24:36
James shields signs 4/83 plus 17.5 option that could make the deal 5/100.5 with the giants. I know Sabean doesn't want to spend money but the giants need shields more than any other team, if they get him they are probably the best in the west

23 Jan 2015 02:27:12
The Giants don't want Shields. If they did, they would've signed him before giving deals to Peavy and likely wouldn't be in talks with Vogelsong again.

I thought bout that after I posted. But they do need a 2 starter. By the moves they're making I'm assuming they want to stick to making the playoffs every other year. Because right now they're 3rd in the west behind dodgers and Padres

23 Jan 2015 06:56:48
They could very well make the playoffs this year. everyone brings up the fact they don't have a rotation. yet, this is the exact same rotation they had last year, plus Cain is back.

They are minus Sandoval and Morse, but adding the defensive value of Aoki and his ability to get on base won't hurt.

It's literally the 2014 Giants minus Morse & Sandoval except they'll hopefully have Belt avoid freak injuries, plus a whole year of Panik, Cain, and Peavy.

Youre right they're basically the same team, hopefully Cain returns to his normal self, Posey needs to have a MVP type season they can, its just their offense has never scored a lot of runs, so the whole team will have to step up. I do think Posey will be the MVP and somehow MadBum will win the cy young

I am a sox fan aswell and I don't want to see betts go not even for strasburg betts is starting in the sox outfeild and is their clear lead off man so I just don't think this deal will work out

22 Jan 2015 21:14:52
Ben Cherington on his rotation this year:

"We're pursuing some stuff but I think it'� � s more what you would classify as depth related," Cherington said. ".We like where we'� � re at. We like the collection of pitchers we have. We think there'� � s untapped potential in the group and the collection we have now can give us a strong pitching staff this year."

In other words, they aren't likely to run out and add another piece.

Part of this is posturing. If the Sox could get Shields at a reasonable price, they'll do it, then deal a couple of salaries such as Craig and Victorino.

LongtimeBaseballFan

23 Jan 2015 04:49:24
Not sure I can buy that it's posturing, nor am I sure why Boston would need to posture. They have the cash to spend.

I'd expect Boston to go after some innings-eater guys at this point, make some minor league signings, and see what happens.

I just can't see it as posturing. although if it's to get Shields, I'll laugh. That would be a steep overpay.

It's simply that Boston acts uninterested to get Shields to lower his demands. Simple. The Sox would love to get him on a two-year deal.

LongtimeBaseballFan

24 Jan 2015 20:13:21
How often does that happen, though?

I don't know of many guys who thought, "well, gee, these guys aren't interested, so let me lower my price just so they can tickle their fancy by having me."

If they won't offer him what he wants, he won't play for them. Posturing rarely works.

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