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15 Oct 2017 03:44:44
Angels offseason:

Bunch of contracts off the books: payroll flexibility

Resign Upton: add 1 year to current deal make it a five year 115 million deal.

Sign Moustakis to a 5 year 85 million contract

Sign Alex Cobb to 4 year 60 million contract

Trade for Ian Kinsler as Detroit continues to do their rebuild. Angels and Detroit seem to be on speed dial with each other.



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17 Oct 2017 01:42:23
They don't really have as much money coming off the books as it seems.

About $28-35M off, but you have $22M in raises going to Trout, Pujols, Simmons, and others. Not to mention arbitration costs. The Angels have multiple guys going to arbitration, and it's projected around $30M there.

That's a net loss of ~$17-24M.

They'll open up for one of those guys. You'd be hard-pressed to suggest they'll spend a quarter of a billion this offseason.

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08 Oct 2017 23:40:32
White Sox trade with the Yanks #1.

needs 1b, 3b, cf traded, dh, sp per my opinion.

sox trade

1b - C. Gillaspie
3b -
dh - N. Delmonico
sp - C. Fulmer and depending on the yanks fa summer maybe another SP.

now the Yanks would like to unload a contract or 2 so i would like to suggest the sox to take on a contract for prospects.

cf - trad for prospects

so the rtn from the Yanks to the sox will be

Chance Adams / Luis Medina Donny Sands / Thairo Estrada / Freicer Perez ///
prospects traded for dumping of CF'er ~~ Estevan Florial + Jake Cave

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09 Oct 2017 05:07:02
Ehhh yes, I think.

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09 Oct 2017 05:54:51
What are you talking about? I don't get what you are saying.

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09 Oct 2017 10:56:59
ok i guess i didn't explained right.

Chance Adams - sp
Luis Medina - sp
Donny Sands - c
Thairo Estrada - ss/ 2b
Freicer Perez - sp
prospects traded for dumping of CF'er
Estevan Florial - of
Jake Cave - of

now for the salary dump the Yank may do, is this too much to expect?

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09 Oct 2017 13:50:04
i still don't get what you are saying. what is the purpose? Who are you trading from the White Sox and Yankees.

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09 Oct 2017 16:05:05
ok, btw, thanks for being tolerant on my rookie post.

this is a trade on the sox behalf and to improve the system and continue the rebuild, while enticing the Yanks to trade.

the sox send b/ c next season, i am seeing the Yanks needs are 1b, 3b, dh, sp and maybe eliminating the over crowded OF and doing a salary dump.
from the sox:

Nick Delmonico - dh, lf, 1b and yeah 3b.
Casey Gillaspie - 1b, dh.
Carson Fulmer - sp, i was thinking D. Cease - sp, but he is in the mist of rebuilding his value. plus the FA's season and the Yanks participation in it.

the yanks needs to do a salary dumb, so the Yanks will trade their CF'er + prospects for another pitcher of some kind.

Yanks trade:

Chance Adams - sp
Luis Medina - sp
Donny Sands - c
Thairo Estrada - ss/ 2b
and maybe Freicer Perez - sp

prospects traded for dumping of CF'er
Estevan Florial - of
and / or
Jake Cave - of.

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09 Oct 2017 18:32:41
So you are saying the Yankees trade those top prospects for the lesser prospects of the White Sox? That is bad. Fulmer hasn't pitched well at all in the Majors, The Yankees aren't trading 3 top prospects and a few good mid level prospects for crap. I need to remind you at first base the Yankees have Greg Bird, who yes needs to prove himself for a full season. 3rd base still have Headley, and will likely have a filler if they trade him as they wait for Machado after 2018. DH anyone can fill, as for a starting pitcher, yeah they need one. But I see both Sabathia and Tanaka back next year. SO it will be the Severino, Sabathia, Gray, Tanaka, Montegomery.

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09 Oct 2017 19:23:12
while you do make a point on greg bird, i am not sold on his power to fully emerge. however that is my opinion. ref to 3b, Headley, he doesn't have power, that is prototypical for a 3b. Delmonico is demonstrating he can hit in his short time up and hit with power. he can play 1b and prob dh in the majors.

ref Gillaspie he is a promising 1b who can hit and play 1b defense. so the yanks on record to get rid of the high salaried players and there is where the rest of my post is taking its que.

so how much is the price for salary dumping in ref to prospects?

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13 Oct 2017 00:59:41
ldf- When Bird returned from DL in August-the numbers he put up prorated to a 40 HR and 125 RBI full season. In 2015 his prorated numbers were 35 HR's. The Yanks resisted opportunity to trade for Alonso or Bruce, because of their faith in Bird. He is their starting first baseman-period! As for 3B-the yanks hit the most HR's in majors (with Headley) -no need for major upgrade there. They have Andujar in the wings and may opt for Machado offer. Florial is their CF of the future. He is the reason they traded Rutherford. Yanks will have $43 mil coming off books with Sabathia, Holliday and TFrazier. I just don't see any logical reasoning behind trade. BTW- I think Yanks will only give up a top prospect in a package for a SOLID starter. Gerrit Cole type.

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06 Oct 2017 16:20:55
Yankees Offseason


Trade #1

Mariners get Brett Gardner

Yankees get Sam Carlson, Wyatt Mills, and Ian Miller

Trade #2

Brewers get Chase Headley

Yankees get Josh Pennington and Brendan Murphy

Trade #3

Marlins get Jacoby Ellsbury, Dellin Betances, Chance Adams, Estevan Florial, and Miguel Andujar

Yankees get Giancarlo Stanton

Free Agency

Masahiro Tanaka opts in to the final three years of his deal.

Sign Shoei Otani for 1 year and $10 million with a wink wink guarantee of a big long term deal when he first becomes eligible.

Sign Rajai Davis for 1 year and $8 million


Gleyber Torres wins the Third Base Job our of Spring Training


CF Hicks
RF Judge
C Sanchez
DH Stanton
SS Gregorius
2B Castro
1B Bird
3B Torres
LF Frazier


C Romine
1B Austin
IF Torreyes
OF Davis




Green (Swingman)
Warren (Swingman)
Shreve (Lefty Specialist)
Kahnle (Middle Reliever)
Betances (7th Inning Setup Man)
Robertson (8th Inning Setup Man)
Chapman (Closer)

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06 Oct 2017 17:51:50
Wait, you can't have Betances in bullpen because you put him in a trade for Stanton, which is too much. Your trade, as usual don't make sense. The Mariners don't need another outfielder, and the Brewers don't need a 3rd basemen. Otani can't get that, they have to offer him how much international money they have and it would be minor league contract.

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06 Oct 2017 18:02:16
I forgot I included Betances in the trade so substitute Mitchell in for Betances in the bullpen.

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06 Oct 2017 19:04:08
BATMAN!, you actually think that’s too much for Stanton coming off of a 59 home run season? Especially since I have them taking back Ellsbury’s contract. They’re going to want a premium in return. Also, the Mariners could absolutely use another outfielder. Particularly one that plays great defense and can play center field. They got almost no production out of center field this year. Plus Gardner only has one year left on his deal so it’s not a long term commitment and he can help them take one last shot at the postseason while they still have Cano and Cruz together. He also brings great leadership. As for Headley, the he can be used to spot Thames and Shaw at third and first who both hit left handed as well as be a nice pinch hitter in a walk year.

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06 Oct 2017 19:23:58
Headley making 13 million isn't going to sit on the bench and be a back up, he actually did pretty decently in the second half, he could start for a team that NEEDS a 3rd baseman. Gardner technically has 2 years left, yes the second year is an option, but I would think it would get picked up.

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06 Oct 2017 19:37:45
Fair enough. What would you say is a fair return for Stanton?

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07 Oct 2017 06:04:07
And with a "wink wink" deal, the Yankees get punished. Lose IFA signing privileges for about a decade, lose multiple draft picks, and front office guys get fired.

The MLB isn't going to allow any sort of circumvention happen with Otani, nor will the other 29 teams. And if it's attempted, that team will face some of the steepest penalties baseball will ever dole out.

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07 Oct 2017 06:05:49
Also, what need do the Brewers have for Headley? They have 3-4 3B options already.

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07 Oct 2017 17:13:16
Can someone please tell me what they think fair value is for Stanton?

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07 Oct 2017 18:04:15
Probably 1 top 100 prospect, and MLB player, maybe even a bad contract.

I don't think that's "fair value", but it's what will likely win a bidding war for Stanton. That contract is going to be tough to justify for any team.

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02 Sep 2017 22:09:17
Rangers off-season
Yu Darvish
J. D. Martinez
Eric Hosmer

Padres get Martin Perez
Rangers get PTBNL or cash

Brewers get Nick Martinez
Rangers get PTBNL or cash

Reds get Shin-Soo Choo
Rangers get low prospect

Padres get Robinson Chirinos
Rangers get PTBNL

Carlos Gomez
Andrew Cashner
Tyson Ross

Let Napoli Grilli and Gonzalez go

1. Elvis SS
2. Carlos Gomez CF
3. Adrian Beltre 3B
4. Eric Hosmer 1B
5. J. D. Martinez RF
6. Rougned Odor 2B
7. Nomar Mazara LF
8. Joey Gallo DH
9. Brett Nicholas C

Ryan Rua
Jurickson Profar
Ronald Guzman
Drew Robinson

1. Yu Darvish
2. Cole Hamels
3. Tyson Ross
4. Andrew Cashner
5. A. J. Griffin.

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03 Sep 2017 02:25:43
So the Rangers are going to spend around $400M this offseason?

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03 Sep 2017 14:14:39
I was going to take out J. D. Martinez but I forgot and put Ronald Guzman at 1st and Jose Trevino on the bench.

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03 Sep 2017 14:17:33
I mean not Guzman at first I meant Rua is in left and Put Trevino on the bench.

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07 Sep 2017 19:38:32
If the Rangers are going to spend that kind of money then instead sign Arrieta and Darvish as SP and Tony Watson as closer.

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28 Aug 2017 06:31:19
The Tigers should do a mini rebuild but not full blown.

Try to trade Verlander and Kinsler to get major league ready prospects

maybe try to trade Castellanos too

Sanchez will be given $5 million as part of a buyout.

But i feel Victor needs to retire..due to having 2 irregular hearbeats stints to the DL but should be added to the coaching staff in a staff rebuild. Which i feel that Vizquel needs to be manager while Victor takes over hitting (can help cut down strikeouts for the team)

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28 Aug 2017 16:48:02
VMart won't leave money on the table. Blame Ilitch and Dombrowski for giving him money this late in his career.

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28 Aug 2017 18:54:59
If it threatens his post-baseball life, he may have to. plus he most likely will still get his $18 million

The Tigers can pay him a 6 yr $18 million deal to be part of the coaching staff or front office

I believe they can stretch that $18 million over time just like the NBA. not sure but if they do, they can do that.

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28 Aug 2017 20:05:01
what if Martinez doesn't want to be a coach or in the front office.

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28 Aug 2017 23:40:57
"If it threatens his post-baseball life, he may have to. plus he most likely will still get his $18 million"

Or, he'll just remain injured and collect on the money, much like Prince Fielder. He's not going to leave money on the table, at all.

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21 Aug 2017 16:10:55
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2B Travis.D Bichette.B
3B ? Walker.C
SS Tulo Gurriel.L
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IF Goins.R Urena.R
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SP Sanchez.A Sanchez.A
SP Weaver.L Weaver.L
SP Estrada.M Reid-Foley.
SP Howard.S Zeuch.TJ
SP ? Borucki.R
RP Osuna.R Osuna.R
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23 Aug 2017 16:42:13
Yeah, let's lock in an 18-year-old 3B, who hasn't played a single game above High-A ball, and has never played 1B as a professional ballplayer, let's take him and slot him into the 1B role when he'll be 20 years old.

Vladdy Jr. won't be making his debut that early, and if he does, it won't be until mid-to-late 2019.

First Tellez, now Guerrero.

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15 Aug 2017 20:14:15
Trade I see making sense in the offseason
A's trade: Khris Davis
Giants trade: Andrew Suarez, Aramis Garcia, Austin Slater

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16 Aug 2017 04:08:23
I can't see the Athletics trading anyone to the Giants, let alone a cheap, controllable outfielder.

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16 Aug 2017 11:35:38
Totally see where you're coming from but Davis isn't going to help the A's compete any time soon. Davis is 29 I believe and not a whole lot of teams have a need for a power hitter with low average and Giants biggest holes are a power hitter and a left fielder Davis fills both.

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16 Aug 2017 15:28:42
The Giants also rank dead last in outfield defense. The last thing they need is to trade for a guy who ranks among the 5 worst defensive outfielders in baseball.

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15 Aug 2017 17:15:08
I kinda wanna look at some off-season trades so and I know some may seem unlikely.

Braves trade: Luiz Gohara, Joey Wentz, Austin Riley
Marlins trade: Dan Straily

O's trade: Britton
Dodgers trade: Yadier Alvarez, Yusniel Diaz, Gavin Lux

Padres trade: Brad Hand
Astros trade: JB Bukauskas, David Paulino, Jorge Alcala

O's trade: Manny Machado
Braves trade: Ozzie Albies, Mike Soroka, Ian Anderson, Travis Demeritte, Touki Toussaint

First trade Marlins are likely going to trade Straily and Braves are looking for controllable starters I also feel the Braves will make the jump the contender status next year

Second trade: I believe O's will realize they can't compete and sell their 2 biggest pieces I believe the Astros will want to keep their top prospects and will settle, Dodgers get probably the best righty lefty duo in the majors.

Third trade: Like I said I believe the Astros will settle and the Padres will have to too, they still get a top 100 prospect along with 2 interesting arms.

Last trade: to sum up what I've said O's rebuild Braves contend Braves I think will have a great chance to bring machado back

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16 Aug 2017 15:33:17
Straily trade: not anywhere close to enough. Straily still has 3-4 years of control as a SP and is very good. It'll take a lot more to bring him to any team.

Britton trade: too much from the Dodgers' perspective. They won't trade their top farm guys for a luxury, which Britton is, thanks to Jansen.

Hand trade: not enough. Padres want to be blown away for him. This won't do it.

Machado: too much. Machado's value has tanked, while he'll still pull a strong trade, it won't be this much.

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18 Aug 2017 03:00:27
Machado is a top 10 player.

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18 Aug 2017 20:55:58
Right now? Not even close.
Next year? Perhaps.

But you don't buy stock at tomorrow's price. You buy it on today's. If Machado is traded, it'll be when he picks it up again.

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15 Aug 2017 13:50:18
Tigers trade Verlander & 5 million a year
Astros trade Tucker

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15 Aug 2017 14:21:06
The Tigers are going to have to kick in more than 5 million a year.

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09 Aug 2017 20:57:34
Yankees Future

2017 Offseason

NYY- Kyle Schwarber
CHC- Dellen Betances

This trade makes too much sense for me. Schwarber needs to be a DH and Yankee stadium is perfect for his LH power. Betances is in the final year of his contract (2018) and will command more money than the Yankees will be willing to spend on another RP.

NYY- Jacob deGrom
NYM- Starlin Castro, Estavan Florial, Miguel Andjuar, Dillon Tate

The Mets are starting to look like a team destine to rebuild. deGrom will be a FA following the 2019 season and would net a great return for the Mets. The Yankees have a deep farm and could use a top starter that's under control for the 18 and 19 seasons.

NYY- Tyrell Jenkins
SD- Jacoby Ellsbury ($31 million -50% of contract remaining)

The Yankees have to do what they can to get out of the Ellsbury contract. The Padres have very few players locked in long term and could afford the $10 million a year for Ellsbury over the next 3 years. It would make sense for both teams to consider.

2018 moves
LF Bryce Harper 10 years $420 million
3B Manny Machado 10 years $385 million

The Yankees have enough young players to allow them to afford Harper and Machado while the young guys (Judge, Sanchez, Frazier, Torres, Adams, Severino, Montgomery) are still under team control. They will be able to field the best team in the league for quite a run.

2019 Roster

C- Gary Sanchez
1B- Greg Bird
2B- Gleyber Torres
3B- Manny Machado
SS- Didi Gregorius
LF- Bryce Harper
CF- Clint Frazier
RF- Aaron Judge
DH- Kyle Schwarber

SP- Jacob deGrom
SP- Sonny Gray
SP- Luis Severino
SP- Jordan Montgomery
SP- Chance Adams

SU- Tommy Kanhle
CL- Aroldis Chapman

This is all obviously hypothetical, but I honestly feel that the Yankees will do something along these lines to ensure they're putting out the best team possible while their young core is under control. This team would easily be the top team in the league with players locked up for another few years. I think the Yankees will get back to spending and being the top team in the MLB for the foreseeable future.

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09 Aug 2017 22:29:16
Seriously, these are terrible. The Mets aren't going to hand over deGrom for that cheap. It's going to cost the Yankees a massive premium.

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10 Aug 2017 00:04:49
The Yanks won't get deGrom for that package - it would take lots more. It would take more than a reliever to get Schwarber. As for Harper and Machado, the Yanks could get one, but won't get both.

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10 Aug 2017 03:41:40
Yeah, I agree with thestatbook, those trades all seem to favor the Yanks, especially the degrom one. And I don't see any team, even the yankees, shelling out 800 mil in one offseason for two players.

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10 Aug 2017 05:09:14
No one wants ellsbury I think that's the worst trade on here because Jenkins isn't awful, believe he was the other player involved in the heyward and Miller deal and plus all these other deals the opposing team to the yanks get screwed.

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31 Aug 2017 17:12:21
I don't think Yankees wanna sign hitters to big contracts anymore. Reason for the young bats. They need to use that money on legit ace pitchers. They have the bats they just need to get mlb experience. Of course sign cheaper hitters at $18 per year just not $40+ per.

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