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MLB Rumors February 27 2015

27 Feb 2015 16:51:38
With Saundars out the Bluejays need a replacement:

Trade navaro to Boston for Nava

Nava replaces Saunders till he returns and then becomes a reliable option off the bench.

This doesn't end here though.

Boston then trades navaro to the Padres with workmen to get cashner

Then the sox with an extra arm take bucholtz(who they can get the most in return for besides Porcello and cashner who they both just got). And trade him to the Giants for afelt who is a lefty reliever which they also need

Crazysull

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Navarro and Workman wouldn't get Boston Cashner from San Diego. As for Saunders it sounds like they will just stay in house. The Red Sox can also get more than a lefty reliever for Buchholz.

BATMAN!

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It is a good thing you are not called "Sane-sull" or there might be even more problems for you on this page. Nothing that you posted will happen or even be considered by any professional team.

Bosox Injection

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27 Feb 2015 17:38:09
Giants won't trade Affeldt at this point. He's a lefty-reliever that can pitch well against righties and lefties.

natedub

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No chance Navarro and Workmen gets Cashner. no way

Gpack17

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With Saunders out a three team deal between the sox jays and Padres makes perfect sence
The sox have what the jays need-outfeild

The jays have what the Padres need-backup catcher

The Padres have what the sox need- an ace

So I think either nava or craig would go to Toronto

Navaro and some prospects would go to the Padres

And cashner goes to the soxs

It makes perfect sence and I think each team should think about doing it because it is a win-win-win deal for everyone

Crazysull

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How is that a win for the Padres at all? Cashner has all star potential if he can stay healthy. He's the #2 starter and would be #1 if shields wasn't there.

Navarro would be the backup Catcher behind Norris. Also, Navarro is complaining that he wants to go somewhere he can start everyday. That's not happening over Norris.

Gpack17

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27 Feb 2015 05:27:43
Three Moves the Blue Jays need to make

#1- Outfield Replacement for Saunders, Bullpen depth and Second Baseman

(#? Prospect Rank in Jays system)

Arizona: C Navarro, 2B Ryan Goins, RP Miguel Castro (#11), 1B Matthew Dean (#13), LHP Jairo Labourt (#16)

Toronto: 2B Aaron Hill, RP Brad Zeigler, OF Cody Ross


#2- Closer

Phillies: RHP Kyle Drabek, Sean Reid-Foley (#10), Alberto Tirado (#15)

Toronto: Jonathan Papelbon

#3- Bullpen Depth

-Sign Kyle Farnsworth to a 1 year deal

Tdot1334

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Hahahahhaha no chance you get hill, ziegler, and ross for that

Gpack17

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Lol, that trade is terrible for the Blue Jays, they give up two very good pitching prospects (Castro, and Laibourt(led single-A in ERA)), a good prospect in Dean, and a starting catcher for three mediocre players.

bluejaysfan777

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Why do they need to replace Saunders?
They got him to fill a hole in the outfield why do they already need a replacement for him?

Crazysull

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Oh never mind didn't see that he torn his meniscus so yes they do need a replacement

Crazysull

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27 Feb 2015 16:49:56
Gpack,

Hill is coming off his worst season yet. and with his age, I can't imagine he gets exceedingly better.

Ross is a backup in Arizona, and a 2nd backup OF at that (Inciarte will get more time than he will)

Ziegler is old. Heck, all three are old.

I'd be much more surprised if Toronto gives that up for three old, declining players.

natedub

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26 Feb 2015 19:23:42
Padres trade Will Venable

Blue Jays trade Miguel Castro

Gpack17

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Who is Miguel Castro?

BATMAN!

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He is a Blue jays pitching prospect. 6'5 young kid. probably be a AA pitcher this year that can hit 99

Gpack17

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26 Feb 2015 23:20:52
Not a chance from the Blue Jays. Venable was awful last year, Castro is shooting up the system, and has a chance to be on the team this season, throws 100MPH. Too much especially since it's only for a half of a season.

bluejaysfan777

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27 Feb 2015 16:05:58
I think the best Venable can bring in at this point is a back-up big leaguer or a bullpen piece.

natedub

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24 Feb 2015 22:59:59
A couple of trades I think makes sense

Dodgers trade: ethier plus 25M, PTBNL
Rangers trade: Jake Thompson

Mid spring training trade
Phillies trade: Cliff Lee plus all of this year's contract
Cubs trade: Dan Vogelbach 1b, eloy Jimenez OF

Clark_K

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I think if the Phils are paying his entire 2015 salary, they would want better prospects back.

Boy Howdie

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26 Feb 2015 19:20:14
With the outfield depth issues in LA, giving away Ethier + $25M would need to bring back more.

And I'm not even that high on Ethier.

natedub

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I highly doubt the Rangers give away Thompson, who is a nice prospect, for Ethier, who is terrible.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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23 Feb 2015 22:40:01
Now that Boston signed Moncada, maybe they would be willing to move Bogaerts. How about

PHI: Hamels
BOS: Bogaerts, Owens, Barnes, Margot, Vazquez.

Boy Howdie

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Who play SS in Boston in the short term?

BATMAN!

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Nope. Moncado is the SS of the future, when Bogarts shifts to 3B, HanRam is the DH, and Panda is the 1B.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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24 Feb 2015 02:59:56
And have Hanley play SS for the next 2-3 years? That would be entertaining.

natedub

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Nope. Still too much in my opinion unless the Phillies are eating some of that contract. Although I still don't see the Sox doing that deal either way.

RedSox2020

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I think they're going to end up just riding out this year and see if they can't sign someone next winter. That way they get go keep all of the super prospects and build a new core out of Bogaerts, Swihart, Moncada, Betts and Owens

Soxchamps1804

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I agree with Sox above. Boston looks like they'll make a run this year with what they have, which could include giving young guys like Workman and Owens a shot. Then, if they are in it at the deadline, they can make a deal then. Or, wait til next winter and make a bid on guys such as Price, Latos, Cueto, Greinke, or others.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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Man adore is not a shortstop now and won't be when he gets to the majors

Betrthen

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Who is "man adore?"

LongtimeBaseballFan

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LTBF, I think their plan is to have Bogaerts be their future SS and Moncada play 3B, which is more suited to his scouting profile.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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Hey, either way, good young left side of the infield.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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22 Feb 2015 22:38:02
DET-HOU

DET Trades:
OF:Steven Moya
SP:Kyle Lobstien
SP:Buck Farmer
INF:Hernan Perez

HOU Trades:
SP:Dallas Keuchel
INF:J.D. Davis

KCM

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Sounds like a lot for Keuchel.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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I'm going to go with the unpopular opinion and say that the Astros turn that down. Keuchel is a controlled 2/3 on a team with limited pitching depth, and the only player o value going their way is Moya, whose utter lack of plate discipline would not appeal to the sabermetrically-inclined Stros

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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20 Feb 2015 21:21:16
On June 1st when the Mets see that Flores can't handle SS and Tulo is healthy:
Mets get Troy Tulowitzki and $32 mil

Rockies get Noah Syndergaard, Rafael Montero, Kevin Plawecki, and Matt Reynolds

jimbo7

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Only Tulo will probably not be healthy.

BATMAN!

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If the Rockies could get that package for Tulo, who never seems fully healthy, then they have worked magic indeed.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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I was worried it might be a little light on the rockies receiving end. if that is enough then the mets should definitely do that.

jimbo7

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Tulo is a great talent, but the guy seems to be fragile.
Just my opinion, but the Rox should deal him.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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19 Feb 2015 15:30:11
DET-Tampa

DET Gets:
P:Chris Archer
OF:Justin Williams
1B: Jake Bauer
RHP: Burch Smith

Tampa Gets:
OF:Steven Moya
SP:Buck Farmer
INF:Hernan Perez
C:Bryan Holiday
RP:Melvin Mercedes

KCM

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The Rays won't trade their cost-controlled No. 2 starter for a boom-or-bust prospect in Moya and four shmucks.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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They probably won't trade Archer, but HBBF just to point out they did trade Hellickson who was basically in the same situation with a couple years more experience.

BATMAN!

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I don't really think the situations are comparable. Archer has more team control than Hellickson did, and is a much better pitcher.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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Batman, there is a big-ass difference between Hellickson and Archer.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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Oh I know.

BATMAN!

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According to your comments above, I'm not sure you do.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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Ok, I was just pointing out that they have traded a cost controlled starter. Never said they were equal.

BATMAN!

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Perhaps I should have just worded it differently. As same situation I meant cost controlled, not talent.

BATMAN!

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19 Feb 2015 06:35:05
Mariners moves:
trade James Paxton, Patrick Kvielen, Gabriel Gurrero and Tyler Pike to Philadelphia for Cole Hamels
trade Brad Miller and James Jones to Washington for Ian Desmond
sign Francisco Rodriguez 1yr 3 million
sign Joe biemel 1yr 1.5 million

Lineup:
1. Austin Jackson CF
2. Dustin Ackley LF
3. Robinson Cano 2B
4. Nelson Cruz DH/RF
5. Kyle Seager 3B
6. Ian Desmond SS
7. Logan Morrison 1B
8. Seth Smith/ Justin Ruggiano RF
9. Mike Zunino C
Bench:
Jesus Sucre C
Rickie Weeks 2B/LF/1B/RF
Willie Bloomquist SS/3B/LF/2B
Endy Chavez RF/LF
Chris Taylor SS
Rotation:
1. Felix Hernandez RP
2. Cole Hamels LP
3. Hisashi Iwakuma RP
4. J.A. Happ LP
5. Tiajuan Walker RP
Bullpen:
Danny Farquar RP
Dominic Leone RP
Joe Biemel LP
Yoervis Medina RP
Francisco Rodriguez RP
Charlie Furbush LP
Tom Whilhelmsen RP
Fernando Rodney RP

Legitimate World series contenders!!

joe rogan

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I would think the Phillies would want Walker more than Paxton. And I definitley sure the Nationals if they traded Desmond would want more than those 2. Also you do know there is 25 men on a roster right? You got 27. Also the Rotation should be Felix, Hamels, Walker, Iwakuma, Happ.

BATMAN!

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That is a weak offer for Hamels. More like Paxton, DJ Peterson, Ketel Marte, and Ryan Yarborough.

Boy Howdie

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What happens to Roenis Elias? He should be in rotation over happ

jimbo7

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I'm not sure that package would get Hamels, and I know that package would not get Desmond.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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Francisco Rodriguez is requesting 10 million not 3

Garrett

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He maybe requesting 10 million, but that doesn't mean he will get it.

BATMAN!

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Agreed but he will not come close to 3

Garrett

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19 Feb 2015 05:14:12
Mets looking to make the playoffs this year for sure next year
Dbacks are for sure a few years away so makes sense
Mets trade Duda and Syndagaard
DBacks Goldschmidt

Betrthen

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This is hilarious. yes the Mets are close to contending, but Goldschmitt is the future of the Diamondbacks. Maybe they can get Trumbo instead.

BATMAN!

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I cannot see the D-Backs swapping Goldy for that, but Arizona would probably move Trumbo for that or even less.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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19 Feb 2015 17:19:12
Goldschmidt would cost just about every marquee prospect in the Mets organization.

natedub

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I agree that that's a sorry offer for Goldy, but I don't get the notion that Trumbo would be worth that. Trumbo isn't worth more than an old boot at this point.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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18 Feb 2015 19:10:14
Early Season Trade.

Phillies get:
-C.Vazquez (instead of B.Swihart)
-J.Kelly
-H.Owens
-M.Barnes
-M.Margot


Red Sox get:
-C.Hamels

BoSoxBob

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This I could see happening. The Phillies do pretty well with this package, and the Sox get their ace.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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Maybe. If it were me, I'd tweak it a little by dropping Barnes or Kelly for Cecchini. But all in all that is fair. The problem of course is our GM - he's dug himself a hole.

Boy Howdie

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If your talking about Ruben doesn't know what he's doing Amaro Jr. then I agree with you. He should have been fired years ago.

BATMAN!

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18 Feb 2015 01:30:17
Phillies trade: Hamels, Papelbon, Asche and 15M Cash

Rangers trade: Gallo (3B), Nomar Mazara (OF)


The Rangers get a rotation of the below with Papelbon displacing Feliz as Closer. Asche can be their backup at 3B and LF or 1B.

Hamels
Darvish
Holland
Gallardo
Lewis

LebowskiAchiever

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18 Feb 2015 04:37:21
No way, Dude.

natedub

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This isn't good at all. The only player the Rangers too me would be interested in is Hamels. They have no real use Papelbon or Asche. I doubt the Rangers are trading Gallo. If a Phillies/Rangers trade for Hamels would happen it would have to involve one or two of their middle infielders. And more than 15 million needs to go to Texas.

BATMAN!

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This is among the worst proposals I've seen on this site.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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Smokey, this is not Nam. This is MLB Trade Rumors. There are rules here.

DetroitTigersFan2001

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18 Feb 2015 01:30:02
Phillies trade: Hamels, Papelbon, Asche and 15M Cash

Rangers trade: Gallo (3B), Nomar Mazara (OF)


The Rangers get a rotation of the below with Papelbon displacing Feliz as Closer. Asche can be their backup at 3B and LF or 1B.

Hamels
Darvish
Holland
Gallardo
Lewis

LebowskiAchiever

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16 Feb 2015 23:45:37
Mets get Brad Miller

Mariners get Rafael Montero, Cesar Puello, and Jhoan Urena

jimbo7

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16 Feb 2015 16:43:20
Couple of Indians moves:

Sign: Everth Caberara

Or

Trade Murphy

For

Donovan solano

He can give them depth at short or take over the starting job possibly

Crazysull

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The Marlins already have a fourth outfielder and I might be wrong but teams are waiting to see what happens with Everth Cabrera and the law.

Garrett

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16 Feb 2015 18:04:53
no team is going near Cabrera with his legal issues. Nor do the Marlins need Murphy.

natedub

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I think the Indians should go after solano because he provides good depth for both second and shortstop, and he won't cost a lot and the Indians have a deep outfeild and I think the Marlins need at least one more outfeilder

Crazysull

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Ok, well they can still go after him, but the Marlins still don't need another outfielder. try again.

BATMAN!

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19 Feb 2015 02:46:49
MIA doesn't need another outfielder since they resigned Reed Johnson. Indians have Zach Walters, Mike Aviles, Francisco Lindor, and Michael Martinez as 2B/SS options, so Solano is just another fork in the road for them (I'm not good with wording)

MNTwinsfan

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16 Feb 2015 13:47:57
Couple red sox trades:
Red sox trade: Allen Craig, low level prospects or cash
Twins trade: Lewis Thorpe LHP, Mason Melotakis LHP

Early/middle season trade
Nationals trade: Jordan Zimmermann
Red sox trade: Edward Mujica, Henry Owens LHP, Rafael Devers 3B, Matt Barnes RHP
Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald opines Zimmermann is a better fit than hamels

Clark_K

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16 Feb 2015 15:45:24
Hamels has team control Zimmermann does not.

Zimmermann will be cheaper because he's a FA at the end of the year, but the Sox have no guarantee of him re-signing with them.

natedub

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16 Feb 2015 22:12:59
Yes he only has one year of control, but there's no way they get hamels without Swihart or Betts and it seems like they won't trade them. Let's say the Nats trade Zimm in June/ early July red sox get an ace for 2/3/4 months if they make the playoffs

clark_k

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19 Feb 2015 02:43:04
I think we won't go after a major league bat like Allen Craig, because our bench looks like Schafer, Pinto, Nunez, and Escobar. Nunez is out of options and I think the Twins want to keep him up instead of sneaking him through waivers to send him down. Pinto is our only good backup catcher (Rohlfing and Fryer just won't cut it), Escobar proved himself last year that he can on the 25 man roster, and Schafer is going to platoon with Hicks in center.

MNTwinsfan

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15 Feb 2015 21:15:35
According to Nick Cafardo, The Red Sox "legitimate offer" for Cole Hamels was "heavy on the major league side." Imagine an offer along the lines of Craig, Mujica, and maybe Barnes. Does Cherington really think that will get it done, that Amaro and Gillick will just say "oh, yeah, we'd like to get young projectable players with multiple years of club control, but, hey, now that you mention it, your bench players are just the ticket for our multi-year rebuild!" So, who's being unreasonable?

BOS gives top prospects, then
PHI gives Hamels

But it won't happen. I'm rooting now for the Yankees to get him.

Boy Howdie

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I'd be willing to bet good money that that was not the package that was offered. Just because the So aren't giving Blake Swihart, it doesn't mean that they haven't offered the Phillies quality packages. You're assuming a lot here.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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You're correct HBBF, I do assume a lot. But "heavy on the major league side" are Cafardo's words, not mine. So even if there were some additional minor league assets, those words to me mean that the offer was headlined by guys like Craig and Mujica - maybe Joe Kelly. Now it may well be that the Sox think Zimmermann is a better fit because they don't want someone signed past 2015, fair enough. But if they are making offers like this for Hamels, they are just wasting everyone's time.

Boy Howdie

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^I think that "heavy on the major league side" insinuates a package including Christian Vazquez, Kelly, JBJ in addition to prospects like Owens or Margot, which isn't great, but isn't horrible either.Even the notoriously stubborn Red Sox wouldn't think that Mujica or Craig would appeal to the Phillies.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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Like I said, that package is a waste of time. You could get a lesser pitcher for it, but not Hamels.

Boy Howdie

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^I wouldn't call it a 'waste of time'. It's perfectly reasonable for the Phillies to demand Swihart, but it's equally reasonable for the Sox to try to keep him.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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Okay, my point is that the 2 sides have widely diverging views of what it would take. And all the reports say they are not even close. So, the more each side holds out hope that, somehow, the other will cave, is a waste of time and effort. Both sides need to move on. The Phils have other players they need to dump and I think they should spend their time trying to find someone (anyone) to take Howard, Ruiz, and Papelbon. Hamels is signed through 2019 and will probably still be relatively effective at age 36-37 (he has never relied on velocity). So his deal will work itself out and there are much worse scenarios than his staying through his contract.

Boy Howdie

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13 Feb 2015 05:07:04
Sox get Hamels

Phillies get Betts - Owens - Margot - Johnson

Maybe throw some low level prospects to Phils as well

Sox rotation
Hamels
Porcello
Wiley
Bucholtz
Kelly

Cardinals2012

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OK Phillies give up the red sox are not trading Betts or Swihart for Hamels

Sinko26

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13 Feb 2015 20:06:23
No. Betts is not being traded. Betts and Owens and Margot is even worse. I actually think Cliff Lee would be more likely to go to the Sox than Hamels, as he would only really cost money.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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The Sox look at Betts as its longtime leadoff hitter, and he could be moved to other positions if needed (such as when Pedroia retires). He is staying.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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I do believe Hamels will be traded before opening day, but it won't be to Boston. My guess is either LAD, SD or STL. Maybe a 3-way.

Boy Howdie

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Swihart would be a must in this trade

Woods

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Probably would be, the Red Sox however refuse to trade him and a few others.

BATMAN!

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^^In this trade. Like, with Betts, Owens, and Margot? You're insane. No one will give the Phil's the equivalent of that package, ever.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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12 Feb 2015 20:03:42
Cubs get Syndergaard Colon
Mets get Starlin Castro

pitcher of now with a pitcher for future
Addison or Baez can fill role easily.

If Arnaud & Lagares can show any consistency. Granderson and Cuddyear can turn the page back, Mets have the potential of wildcard. or else 85 is still the max even with Castro.

shizzee75

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Why would the Cubs want Colon. Plus more would have to be added to get Castro.

BATMAN!

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I think these two trades match up, but Theo seems to be intent on acquiring a dozen shortstops.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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Certainly will want Neise instead of Colon
Cubs still a year away they need major pitching upgrades
Rotation is real bad
They will need to sign another big FA next year to compete

Betrthen

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12 Feb 2015 00:06:02
I want to hear some opinions on if anyone thinks this could be possible. Just throwing it out there.

Padres use international signing money and sign Olivera using him as a starting 2B.
Then
Padres trade Gyorko, Campos, and Medica

Baltimore trades Chris Davis

why? davis is in the final year of his contract with christian walker waiting in the wings. Pearce can also play first and Medica can DH, play 1st, or left. Gyorko gets the start at 2nd. Campos becomes a solid young reliever for them. Padres get a 2B, still have Spangenberg, and get a solid 1B.

Gpack17

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12 Feb 2015 04:58:03
Not sure why Baltimore would want to give up one of their only power threats for a package of guys they don't really need.

natedub

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Davis bat under .200 last year and has one year left. There is no way this trade will happen for that much.

Garrett

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If Baltimore were to trade Davis they would have already done it. Plus I would think it would be better overall if they kept Alonso, not power wise, just he's a better hitter.

BATMAN!

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@natedub they still have plenty of guys with pop, pearce, jones, young, hardy, gyorko, weiters, and a healthy machado can all hit. they would also get a solid young reliever and a backup 1b with some pop and can play left.
@batman he is going into his last season under contract, under this trade, they still keep alonso too. Davis could prove wrong in a contract year with an upgraded team.
@garrett cool name

Gpack17

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Not a good deal for the Pads. The downgrade from Gyorko to whatever AAAA player they have in waiting exceeds the upgrade from Alonso to Davis. Take into account the fact that Davis only has one year of control, while Gyorko still has a couple, and that Kemp will probably have to be stuck a first this year, and it looks even worse. The Pads should really worry about the left side of the infield. Amarista and Middlebrooks have a legit chance at being the worst combo in baseball.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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Gpack, do you know crazysull?

LongtimeBaseballFan

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13 Feb 2015 01:40:44
Aside from Jones, none of those guys have 30+ HR potential. Hardy might come close.

A guy like Davis will make an immediate splash on any team he joins. It's going to take way more than a middling 2B, a back-up 1B, and reliever to get him. Think a top prospect.

natedub

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@highly biased. did you look up gyorko's stats last season. then talk to me. I mean I like the guy but if you can get Olivera, or use your former first round pick in Spangenberg and upgrade at 1st then perfect. The fact that you said kemp will play first is laughable. Even a 1 year upgrade at first could do wonders for this team or they can resign him.

@natedub true. how many potential 30+ HR players did the giants or royals have last season? I am just saying that with Walker in wings and Pearce there too. This is a team that can afford to upgrade 2B longterm for a 1B on his last year of his contract.

Gpack17

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Olivera is on the tail end of his career. I was more focused on Gyorko's 2014, in which he posted a 111 wRC+ with a BAPIP that was actually below average. I'm more inclined to take a chance on him returning to that level then Davis, whose

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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Olivera is 29 years old. he had a blood problem which is the health concern people are worried about. i'd be more worried if it was an acl or tommy john. and with spangenberg and linsey all major league ready. i'd take the chance on getting rid of gyorko.

Gpack17

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14 Feb 2015 04:24:19
The Giants have 3 guys who are potential 30 HR guys: Pence, Belt, Posey. Pence I might describe as more of a 25 HR guy, but he did just 27 two years ago while playing for SF. You don't NEED 30 HR guys. but they are still hot commodities.

At this point, the Padres would be selling low on Gyorko. Coming off the year he just had, plus the small sample size they've got, I'm not sure Gyorko is much of an upgrade. He put up a -0.5 WAR while Schoop had a 1.5 (and for 2B, WAR is more important as it's more of defensive position than others).

A guy like Davis would require a much better centerpiece than Gyorko.

natedub

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10 Feb 2015 01:48:51
Red Sox/Nationals:
(Pre-Season/Early-Season Trade)

Nationals get:
-A.Craig
-M.Margot
-M.Barnes

Red Sox get:
-D.Fister


*Benefits For Nationals___________________________________
-5-6M Team salary freed up for 2015.

-CRAIG is Team controlled for 4yrs. Cost effective & very Capable OF/1B to aid with temporary absence J.Werth & is an effective Sub. for R.Zimmerman if and when he gets re-injured.
#He is due for a bounce back year and could prove to be a worthwhile replacement for J.Werth when his contract exp. in 2017.

-MARGOT is the #3 rated prospect in the Sox's highly rated AAA club. Possible future CF for the Nats with a great upside. Could be option to replace D.Span if Nats choose.

-BARNES is a top 10 rated SP AAA prospect with a very good upside. Potential to blossom into a 3 or 4.

-NATS still would a have premier SP Staff consisting of: M.Scherzer,S.Strasburg,J.Zimmermann(if they choose to extend him),and T.Roark.


*Benefits for
Red Sox____________________________________

-Sox get 1yr. Team Control with FISTER.
-Sox would have an Opportune chance to extend both D.Fister and R.Porcello in the 1 & 2 slots as Non-Aces before they would hit FA.
Both are quality the Ground Ball Specialists the Sox need to retain with the way their Starting Staff has been reconstructed this year. A staff of SP's that not more than 2's,3's,& 4's at best.

-I could see the Sox offering Fister 4yr.60+M and
Porcello 5yr.+1yrOpt./110+M.
#A very decent option instead of chasing a High Priced FA SP or trading precious prospects for 1 just the same.

BoSoxBob

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Not bad, Bob. I like it.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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If we extend Fister, then it's great. I'd think the Sox would be hesitant to give up Margot if they weren't sure that they could lock him up.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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08 Feb 2015 19:49:22
DODGERS: Ethier
ANGELS: CJ Cron + Hector Santiago

RED SOX: Edward Mujica
BLUE JAYS: Steve Tolleson + Chad Jenkins

jzimm

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09 Feb 2015 04:44:21
I'd rather keep Jenkins.

bluejaysfan777

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09 Feb 2015 05:55:33
Cron + Santiago for one of the worst contracts in baseball? No way.

natedub

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Mujica for Jenkins is pointless. You're basically having both teams extend mediocre relievers. And there's no way the angels give give up a decent young hitter and a useful pitcher for Ethier, who offers nothing.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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07 Feb 2015 00:59:50
Other possibilities for the Tigers

.Navaro for a prospect

.Cowgill for prospects

.Hamalton for Moya

.Cron for a low level prospect

.Three team deal

Tigers get alanso,prospect from phillie

Phillies get McCan, Solarte

Padres get Howard and a big part of his contract, lower level prospects from Detroit

Crazysull

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Your proposals are just getting worse by the day, Sull.

BATMAN!

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07 Feb 2015 04:53:43
I think Sull just looks at a roster and goes "eenie meenie minie mo. and they are trading. YOU!"

And then he runs with it.

natedub

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If this cowgill guy is Collin cowgill then they will be lucky to get anything for him let alone prospects

DBACKS

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Sull, if you want to be taken seriously, maybe you should actually know what players are involved in your proposed trades.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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Right when I think you are turning the page on making horrible trades Sull you pull this stuff again.

Garrett

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Hamilton for Moya. Hamiltons won't help because he is probale out for the first two months of the season. Bad trade there. Nasd the Howard trade to Padres?

Tigers Fan

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He could have meant Billy Hamilton.

BATMAN!

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Knowing Sull, he could have meant Alexander Hamilton.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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06 Feb 2015 23:55:46
Padres trade: Carlos Quentin
Indians trade: Nick Swisher plus cash
Trade makes sense for both teams because Indians get a right handed bat the can play OF/DH. Padres get a guy that can play first in case Alonso doesn't preform. I think this is more likely maybe in the middle of ST or before the season starts

Clark_K

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The Indians would be more likely interested in giving up a prospect in lieu of cash. A bullpen arm (CC Lee?) or a Lower Level player (Lake Country Captains Level A-) with some upside. A group of two or three (Eric Haase or Alex Levisky) to select from by a specified date.

An additional exchange of prospects may be possible as well. Perhaps both teams will get a winning lottery ticket.

GSon

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08 Feb 2015 04:21:11
Never thought I'd hear Carlos Quentin and Winning Lottery Ticket used in the same sentence.

natedub

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06 Feb 2015 23:20:47
Red Sox/Nationals Trade:
(by Mid-Season -or- by Opening Day).

Nationals get:
-H.Owens
-M.Margot
-S.Coyle
-S.Mercedes

Red Sox get:

-S.Strasburg

BoSoxBob

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Won't ever happen.

BATMAN!

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I'm a Sox fan, but I think Strasburg would cost more than that.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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06 Feb 2015 16:27:26
Padres trade Carlos Quentin

Tigers trade 2 low minor leaguers (non prospects)

Gpack17

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06 Feb 2015 17:01:01
IF, and that's a big if, this trade goes through, I think the Padres would need to take on almost of his contract.

V-Mart isn't going to be out for that long, so taking on a 11-18M (8M + a 3M buyout or a 10M option) for a backup DH/1B is a hefty price, when they have plenty of options to internally while Martinez is out.

natedub

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All minor leaguers, except those major leaguers that are on minors deals, are prospects. Just different tiers.

BATMAN!

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@natedub, he is on track for 8 million this year and a 10 million mutual option that can definitely be declined. The 3 million buyout is if he plays 320 games between 2013 and 2015, where he is at, he would have to play 188 games this next season. Highly unlikely given his injury history and the fact that there's 162 games in a season and even with the playoffs, they would have to make the world series and he would have to play every game.
@batman that's not necessarily true, there are minor leaguers that are not considered major league prospects by any means. obviously they can play themselves into those categories.

Gpack17

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06 Feb 2015 20:56:08
I missed that part of his contract, whoops. Even still, the Padres would have to eat $8M just to move Quentin. If the Tigers don't need him all season, they certainly won't pay him $8M to sit the bench. Without the Padres eating all of the contract, or maybe $6M at the least, it doesn't make much sense for Detroit.

natedub

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I think this is possible.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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06 Feb 2015 11:50:18
Smoral, Tolleson
for
Utley

T.O takes on full salary so gives up a little less

Navarro
for
Balfour

Rays get a veteran catcher and Jays get an experienced closer/set up man

JaysFan

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06 Feb 2015 15:58:26
Navarro for Balfour maybe.

The Utley trade. never. Yeah, never.

natedub

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The Utley trade is so ridiculously horrid for the Phillies, its awfulness cannot be adequately conveyed with text. As for the Balfour, he's terrible and overpaid. No reason for the Jays to trade for him.

Highly Biased BoSox Fan

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06 Feb 2015 02:35:26
With Victor Martinez out here are my two thoughts on the solution to the problem:

Sign: viceado

Or trade with Indians

Get swisher

But what would it take to get him? I don't think it would take a lot given that he has injury problems.

Just respond with which one you agree with and if you agree with the second one what it would take to get him or tell me another choice that they might get to replace him that I didn't list

Crazysull

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06 Feb 2015 05:29:21
Viciedo maybe.

Martinez won't be out for long, so I'd imagine they can shift a guy over to DH and use a variety of different options they already have.

natedub

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Dayan Viciedo

Jables

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Okay, Sull, this isn't bad.

The Tigers will likely just sign Viciedo, as he would be cheaper than Swisher.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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I agree with the viciado signing I think he would work and then when Victor comes back if he is doing well shift jd Martinez to center and put him where jd was but if not just keep gose in center and jd where he is, I also think viciado would look good in a tigers uniform and I think he will do well in a hitter friendly ball park

But if they did go get swisher what would it take?

Crazysull

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07 Feb 2015 04:50:38
Viciedo would look good in a Tiger's uniform? You sound like my sister.

natedub

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05 Feb 2015 22:36:08
Here are options for the Tigers to replace Victor Martinez if he has to miss the entire 2015 season:

Tigers get: Ryan Howard, Phillies pay 75% of contract
Phillies get: Bryan Holaday, Blaine Hardy, Stephen Moya, PTBNL


Tigers get: Nick Swisher
Indians get: Alex Wilson, Tyler Collins, Ian Krol


Tigers get: Chris Carter
Astros get: Blaine Hardy, James McCann, Stephen Moya


Tigers get: Ryan Braun
Brewers get: Stephen Moya, Buck Farmer, Hernan Perez, Al Alburquerque, Aaron Westlake, PTBNL

yankees27

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06 Feb 2015 05:31:29
Martinez won't miss all of 2015. The injury isn't as bad as everyone is thinking.

Besides, every one of these trades are 110% terrible, with the Ryan Braun trade being 150% terrible.

natedub

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Yeah, Yankees, these stink. All of them.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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As a Tigers fan I'd like to see Ryan Braun or Cris Carter in a Tigers uniform but those trades are highly unlikely.

BaseballCritic

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These are horrible. Braun is not even available, plus the Tigers really wouldn't have the prospects to get him. Carter is probably not available either. I don't think the Indians would trade within the division. If there were a trade of Howard, they aren't going to get that much in return, even if they are paying most of the contract.

BATMAN!

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05 Feb 2015 19:33:11
Padres sign Shields to a 4 year $78 million dollar deal.

Padres trade Cashner, Kelly, Lindsay, Butler

Phillies trade Hamels, $25 million

Gpack17

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06 Feb 2015 05:34:24
Padres will do one, not both.

natedub

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Only one of these will happen.

BATMAN!

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I agree, this is an either/or post. I do fully expect one of them to happen soon though.

Gpack17

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Maybe the first. The Hamels offer is laughable.

Boy Howdie

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06 Feb 2015 17:06:49
More likely Shields. They have reportedly about $19M to spend to get to their organizational payroll limit. and I don't think they'll get right up to it. They likely want some free space, I'd imagine they add about $15M left.


Hamels doesn't have much payroll flexibility, as he's already signed to a long-term deal. The Phillies would need to eat a hefty portion of the bill for the Padres to stay put.

Shields could be paid less in 2015 while they wait for money to come off the books. so Shields is WAYYYYY more likely.

natedub

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@boyhowdie how is it laughable, its not matt wisler, its andrew cashner who was the number 1 starter for them last year and would be a top 2 starter for the phillies instantly. Lindsay would take over for utley and kelly could be a solid 4-5 starter and is young. Obviously theyd probably throw in a rymer liriano as well though.
@natedub reports are saying that right now they are sitting around 84 million and they are also saying that they anticipate preller having about 105 to spend max. I do agree that shields is way more likely and we can see that happening soon. They also will most likely still explore trades with quentin, maybin, and a pitcher.

Gpack17

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Well, so far the first part of this is true. the deal is between 72 to 78 million on 4 years with a 5th year option. Guess we will wait and see for Hamels next.

Gpack17

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