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23 Feb 2017 01:49:05
Happ, Alford, Zeuch, Woodman
for
Ozuna

Marlins are in need of some SP now and some prospects moving forward

Upton
for
Low level prospect

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23 Feb 2017 03:42:54
Way too much for Ozuna, Jays say no.

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26 Feb 2017 19:21:55
Too much for Ozuna.

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22 Feb 2017 19:22:44
Rest of Yankees Offseason

Trade

Tigers get Brett Gardner

Yankees get Justin Wilson

The Tigers get their everyday CF to replace Maybin while balancing out their righty heavy power hitting lineup with a speedy lefty that plays gold glove defense.

The Yankees were supposedly in on Blevins, Logan, and Romo until the end but weren't willing to meet their price tags so this gives them a cheaper alternative they are familiar with while shedding Gardner's salary and clearing the path for Clint Frazier while clearing at bats for Chris Carter to maximize his 40 HR potential until Frazier is ready.


Roster

Lineup

CF Ellsbury
SS Gregorius
C Sanchez
LF Holiday
2B Castro
DH Carter
1B Bird
RF Judge
3B Headley

Bench

C Romine
1B Austin
OF Hicks
IF Torreyes

Rotation

Tanaka
Sabathia
Pineda
Severino
Warren/Niese

Bullpen

Warren/Niese (Swingman)
Mitchell (Swingman)
Layne (Lefty Specialist)
Wilson (Middle Reliever)
Clippard (7th Inning Setup Man)
Betances (8th Inning Setup Man)
Chapman (Closer)

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22 Feb 2017 19:32:49
Holiday isn't an everyday OF anymore. Carter will platoon with Bird at 1st with Austin out but Holiday should be the teams primary DH in my opinion.

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22 Feb 2017 19:57:59
I agree with you CrazySull but Holiday played LF last year for the Cardinals when healthy. In an ideal situation he would be the teams DH but I think it's worth it to get Carter's power bat in the lineup rather than Gardner who is declining fast. Also having Carter platoon with Bird isn't ideal for Bird's development. He needs to play everyday and get consistent at bats to be groomed into their everyday first baseman of the future.

Whether you think the fit is there for the Yankees or not, do you think the trade is fair in value?

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22 Feb 2017 22:07:31
if the yankees were going to trade Gardner they would have done so already.

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23 Feb 2017 02:10:11
There are no takers for Gardner, his declining skill set, and his contract.

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23 Feb 2017 04:19:13
I don't think his contract is the problem, it just has 2 years and 26 million, if the yankees were to pay half or a bit more, someone would take him.

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23 Feb 2017 14:28:54
Your trying to make the Yankees rebuild and be a contender at the same time. It usually doesn't work. Remember the goal is to win a championship, does that look like a championship caliber team?

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24 Feb 2017 04:51:24
yes the Cardinals did play him in LF but they are an NL team so they don't have a DH and they also tried him at first. I am not saying that he can't play LF I am just saying he would be a defensive reliability and they have better options. And platooning Carter and Bird is smart because of Bird struggles against leftys you don't want him to feel bad about himself and that's when you can plug Carter into the lineup.

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21 Feb 2017 19:46:42
Pirates/WhiteSox

Pirates Get:
Jose Quintana SP
Charlie Tilson CF

White Sox Get:
Austin Meadows CF
Tyler Glasnow SP
Kevin Newman SS
Elias Diaz C

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22 Feb 2017 00:11:32
Austin Meadows goes no where, Quintana will not come to Pittsburgh unless the deal is built around Josh Bell.

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22 Feb 2017 01:19:17
That seems like a fair package for quintana, but I do not see the pirates giving that much up. I would guess that if the pirates were willing to give that up, quintana would be a bucco by now.

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22 Feb 2017 01:42:35
this is wishful thinking by a White Sox fan.

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22 Feb 2017 02:56:47
Then off to St. Louis he goes!

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22 Feb 2017 19:36:55
That is the problem with trading for star players. The price tag might be fair but is it worth giving up that much for one guy and a throw in? In my opinion no. The Red Sox got a good deal for Sale since they were able to avoid giving up a lot. I know they gave up Moncada but we still have Deverse in the minors and will do just fine in a few years. And Kopech was ok but nothing special and they traded from their outfield prospect depth since they would have no place to play with the Red Sox OF situation now. So they were able to get a good deal. But the Pirates don't have as good as a farm system as the Red Sox so it is harder for them to make trades like that.

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23 Feb 2017 02:10:59
This doesn't fill the bill for Pittsburgh.

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19 Feb 2017 19:33:06
Tampa Bay sends RP Brad Boxberger to Washington, where he takes over the closer role.

The Nationals send LH reliever Enny Romero to the Rays, where he will gives Tampa another lefty in the bullpen besides Xavier Cedeno.

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19 Feb 2017 22:34:10
Don't see the rays doing this, they had Romero the last two years, and he hasn't pitched well for them. Don't see them trading boxberger for him.

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20 Feb 2017 00:41:34
So the Nationals are going to send Enny Romero, who they just acquired from Tampa Bay, back to Tampa Bay?

The Rays got rid of Romero because they needed his roster spot. So I don't see them taking him back and giving up a better reliever as well.

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20 Feb 2017 01:47:56
The rays just DFA'd Romero then (I may be wrong) sold him to WAS.

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20 Feb 2017 03:25:41
Um so a guy who they sent to Washington as a DFA a couple weeks ago for a better and more established reliever?

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20 Feb 2017 14:24:03
My point is that Washington is loaded to win this season, but the bullpen looks to be an issue. Boxberger is on the short list of guys who could go to D. C., close games, and settle the pen.

The trade itself has flaws; the reasoning is sound.

Thanks, guys.

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20 Feb 2017 17:35:42
The reasoning sucks, the rays don't want Romero.

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20 Feb 2017 23:56:49
Sure, it makes great sense for Washington, but good trades make sense for both teams, and there's no reason for the rays to do this. If a good trade makes sense for one team and not the other, I have a lot of pirates trades I would love to post.

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21 Feb 2017 02:33:58
The Nationals should trade Bryce Harper to the Dodgers for cash.

The Dodgers need an OF.

The reasoning is sound, but the trade has flaws.

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21 Feb 2017 18:31:34
Exposfan the reasoning isn't sound, for it too be sound it needs to make sense for both teams.

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21 Feb 2017 22:45:51
I was mocking his defense of his post.

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19 Feb 2017 19:07:42
Royals get: jp Crawford and jennimar Gomez

Phillies get: Kyle zimmer Jorge bonifacio and Peter O'Brien

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20 Feb 2017 00:42:00
You are most certainly a Royals fan.

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20 Feb 2017 01:51:30
Crawford is a big part of the rebuild in Philly. Not happening.

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20 Feb 2017 02:29:11
How the royals are giving up there future.

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20 Feb 2017 05:45:12
JP Crawford is one of the best prospects in baseball. None of the Royals mentioned are even top prospects.

KC area needs to test the water.

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20 Feb 2017 18:49:07
This dude is trying so hard to prove he isn't a Royals fan. (Not sure why) . I'm a Mariners fan it shines through from time to time. Maybe try making trades that don't involve your squad.

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20 Feb 2017 18:51:36
Also giving up your future for a better future is not giving up your future. I hope that makes sense.

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21 Feb 2017 19:08:05
Maybe if the Royals add someone like Moose or Cain to the trade but even after that it still needs work.

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17 Feb 2017 18:50:00
Mets get Andrew Mccutchen
Pirates get Steven Matz, Michael Conforto and Anthony Kay

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17 Feb 2017 19:20:56
If the Mets were willing Pirates should be all over it. Plug Conforto in RF. Matz is your 3rd or 4th starter. McCutchen does not want to play RF.

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17 Feb 2017 21:14:11
I would do it and doesn't matter about Cutch wanting to play RF.

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18 Feb 2017 02:20:43
No way this happens.

Mets, while possessing lots of talent and potential, have question marks in the rotation due to injuries. That, and Conforto is the only OF with youth.

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18 Feb 2017 15:17:29
So what's your point?

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21 Feb 2017 19:09:36
The Mets are getting better they have one of the best and young rotations in baseball and they have a lot of good young players arriving soon. I see them contending (even more than they already are) soon.

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13 Feb 2017 03:57:50
Pirates trade: McCutchen

Jay's trade: Alford and Stroman

Jay's top outfield prospect until Guerrero Jr. Is ready and Stroman.

I realize the Pirates are asking a lot for McCutchen but nobody is biting. This is a realistic offer for him.

Jay's get the piece they need to make one last run at it.

Move Bautista to first for durability/ defensive reasons.

They are stretching out Biagini in the Spring to potentially start. If that doesn't work, he can go back to the Pen and the Jay's can grab a guy like fister.

McCutchen
Travis
Bautista
Donaldson
Morales
Tulo
Martin
Pierce/ Carrera/ Upton
Pillar

Sanchez
Estrada
Happ
Liriano
Biagini

Better lineup than last year with addition of McCutchen. Will still not have enough to get first in the east but good enough for wildcard.

Thoughts?

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13 Feb 2017 12:59:34
Since the Blue Jays are getting Bautista back and Mccutchen going to right, I don't see it happening.
The Blue Jays would not be willing to trade Stroman in my opinion.
And I see Mccutchen staying with Pittsburgh this year and then trading him at the deadline if they are out of it.

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13 Feb 2017 19:11:18
McCutchen isn't going to bring back Stroman. The Blue Jays wouldn't even give him up for Blackmon.

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13 Feb 2017 21:10:18
Cubbies I think he would bring back Stroman but the pirate's did say that they are getting back Vlad Jr. in any trade or it's a no go.

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14 Feb 2017 04:03:43
Yep its a no go, Vlad Jr is going no where. The trade isn't bad i feel the Jays should stick with what they have now. Pompey is a real interesting guy and i feel he can factor into the LF equation. The only thing i could see is a 6th starter/ swing man or a AAAA spot starter continued to be added.

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14 Feb 2017 04:06:40
Oh and sign Joe Blanton. How is this guys still on the market. Easy 7th/ 8th inning guy with Grilli.

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15 Feb 2017 02:05:11
Wants to stay west coast on multi year but the dodgers won't give.

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11 Feb 2017 15:48:25
Giants/ Mets trade:

Giants get Juan Lagares
Mets get Chase Johnson, Ryder Jones

Giants were rumored to go after Gutierrez before the Dodgers signed him. It seems they are looking for outfield help after all.

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11 Feb 2017 21:05:25
Your undervaluing Lagares he's a Gold Glover.

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11 Feb 2017 21:55:49
exposfan, one-sided deal.

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12 Feb 2017 01:25:44
Maybe it's one sided, maybe it's not. Lagares' value is tough to gauge.

On one hand, he's pretty good. But he's a defense-first player. Teams could get Jake Marisnick or Peter Bourjos for significantly cheaper and get a similar player. Is his defense so good that you ignore the bat? (i. e. Kiermaier) I don't think so.

On the other hand, the Mets have very little leverage. They don't have regular ABs to give him, and he's getting a good chunk of cash, so you can't just sit him. But, again, there are plenty of other options out there similar to Lagares, and maybe for cheaper.

Moving Lagares would give them some money back they could offer in extensions or to more pressing needs.

What would you all say Lagares is worth?

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12 Feb 2017 13:59:09
Yeah but the giants are giving up basically nothing. A catcher who hit under .200 and a pitcher that's already 25 with slim to none upside.

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12 Feb 2017 15:53:14
To be honest, not sure. He has little value to many teams, but might start on others.

IMO, he is a good 4th OF that could be a part-time starter and late innings defensive replacement. He's 27, so it's about time he either puts it together or very soon, he'll be a bounce-around guy, going from team to team each year.

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12 Feb 2017 21:56:44
jetjet, Ryder Jones is a 3B with some pop. Chase Johnson is likely a relief guy, but if you can't tell, I don't think a guy who has done nothing for 2 seasons is worth anything of substance. Also, the Giants system has a lot more than pundits will acknowledge. Sure, they don't have a lot of elite talent, but they also haven't had the poor seasons to draft top picks. Also, they might have more mid-level prospect depth than anyone in baseball. That doesn't bode well in rankings, but the Giants have plenty, and teams know that.

Red Sox Guy, Lagares would likely start out as a bench guy for the Giants. His offense is very, very poor. No one is giving up a premium for a 4th outfielder.

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10 Feb 2017 03:52:30
Indians/Mets:

Indians get: Wilmer Flores UTIL, Chris Flexen RHP (Mets #29)

Mets get: Logan Ice C (Indians #22)Shane Bieber RHP (Indians #26)

The only real need the Indians have on paper is infield depth. Flores gives them a solid utility guy. The Mets have a logjam of position players, so they should instead cash in on Flores with a couple top-of-the-system type prospects.

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10 Feb 2017 14:17:25
Reports are that the Tribe is going after Utley as a utility player.

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11 Feb 2017 05:42:45
facts are he resigned with the dodgers.

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11 Feb 2017 07:12:34
Not worth it for the Mets. Flores only gets 2 mil and does way more than asked.

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12 Feb 2017 15:54:35
They should try to get Rojas from the Marlins. It shouldn't cost that much either.

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08 Feb 2017 23:59:56
I haven't made good trades lately I hope I improve on this one

Royals trade Mike Moustakas, Chase Vallot Kyle Zimmer, Cory Tuops

Pirates trade Tyler Glasnow, Jameson Tallion

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09 Feb 2017 01:08:12
Is this even serious?

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09 Feb 2017 01:26:56
What's so bad about it?

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09 Feb 2017 01:34:06
Everything

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09 Feb 2017 01:54:43
Here is what is so bad about it.

Glasnow and Taillon, possibly the future Pirates top two starters for one year of Moustaukas and prospects that aren't even in the top 100.

Do you really think Glasnow who is in the top 25, would be traded for players not in the top 100?

Now if this trade was for Hunter Dozier, who isn't in the top 100 but number 9 at 3B and one of Kelvin Herrera, Danny Duffy, maybe even Salvador Perez, and if the Pirates added Josh Bell, which would definitely not happen, it would work in my opinion. But that trade, the Pirates hang up laughing that the GM Even tells Glasnow and Taillon, and they laugh too.

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09 Feb 2017 03:10:10
Dolgin18 ok I see now.

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09 Feb 2017 07:15:53
The Pirates are giving up 2 young, MLB ready starters for a guy in his last year before free agency. And a guy at a position they have covered.

There is zero reason to do this.

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09 Feb 2017 07:16:03
Honest question, are you a Royals fan?

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09 Feb 2017 22:37:24
Not to mention they have Jung Ho Kang and David Freese on the roster don't waste your time with ideas like this.

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09 Feb 2017 23:37:31
I'm a bucs fan.

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10 Feb 2017 00:19:46
Dude.

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10 Feb 2017 02:29:35
Aye you are either a crummy liar or the world's crummiest fan.

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