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26 Sep 2020 10:58:57
Let's try this a different way.. in the past, postings were agreed or disagreed based up a single posting. How about this narrative: The Indians have traded away three LEAGUE level aces over the past two seasons. Will there be a third?.

Who wants to offer what for Shane Bieber?

Yankees?.. Braves?..

B-prospects and AAAA players won't get the job done..

Thoughts?

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26 Sep 2020 22:16:01
Doesn't even rise to the level of a rumor.

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01 Sep 2020 17:17:43
Mets hypothetical

Imagine if the Mets ownership hired Chaim Blood as GM instead of BVW. Bloom insisted the Mets rebuild/be cautious, while BVW wanted the Mets to go for it. Which turned out to be the deciding factor in hiring BVW. Owenership was not ready to rebuild. Bloom has a history of player development and understands value, while BVW was a very good agent, but never worked on the roster side. So, let's go back to November 2018 undo the moves made by BVW.

BVW moves

Contracts Moved
Years/Salary

2/$26 million (Jay Bruce)
1/$7 million (Anthony Swarzak)
1/$8 million (Jason Vargas)
2/$2 million (Kevin Plawecki)

Saved $29 million in 2019
Saved $14 million in 2020


Contract Acquired
Years/Salary

5/$100 million (Robinson Cano)
-removing $20 million that was received in trade
4/$15 million (Edwin Diaz)
-assuming arb
3/$28 million (Jenrys Familia)
2/$16 million (Wilson Ramos)
2/$15 million (Jed Lowrie)
2/$18 million (Marcus Stroman)
2/$10 million (Justin Wilson)

Added $49 million in 2019
Added $63 million in 2020


In all, BVW added just over $20 million to the 2019 payroll. In 2020 he added $49 million. In addition he traded away the #12 prospect in baseball, two former 1st round picks, and another young arm (Woods-Richardson) with huge upside. The only good trade he made was acquiring JD Davis from Houston.


Prospects Moved by BVW

CF Jared Kelenic
SP Simeon Woods-Richardson
SP Justin Dunn
SP Anthony Kay
SP Kevin Smith
SP Jordan Humphreys
2B Luis Santana
RP Gerson Bautista
SP Scott Manea
OF Ross Adolph


Lets go back to 2018 (pre BVW moves) and hypothetically sell like Bloom wanted.

Roster Construction at the time

C- Travis d'Arnaud (Exp 2019)
1B- Jay Bruce (Exp 2019)
2B- Jeff McNeil
3B- Todd Frazier (Exp 2019)
SS- Amed Rosario
LF- Yoenis Cespedes (Exp 2020)
CF- Brandon Nimmo
RF- Michael Conforto

SP- Jacob deGrom (Exp 2020)
SP- Noah Syndergaard
SP- Zach Wheeler (Exp 2019)
SP- Steven Matz
SP- Jason Varges (Exp 2019)

7th- Hansel Robles (Exp 2020)
SU- Anthony Swarzak (Exp 2019)
CL- Seth Lugo

Ready to contribute in the Minors
1B- Pete Alonso
1B/OF- Dominic Smith


Moves Bloom would have probably made based off reports and rumors at the time.

Trades

Noah Syndergaard to San Diego.

It's hard to imagine exactly what the Mets would have received in return, but SD was never trading Tatis Jr, or Gore. So let's remove those two from consideration. Francisco Mejia and Xavier Edwards were both high on the Mets list then. Getting a 26 year old pitcher with multiple years of control would get at least 3 quality prospects and maybe a lower end one as well. Therefore, we can add Luis Patino and a guy like Andres Munoz.

NYM- Francisco Mejia, Xavier Edwards, Luis Patino & Andres Munoz
SD- Noah Syndergaard & Ali Sanchez



Come 2019, with the Mets struggling again. Bloom would have probably considered moving deGrom as well who is 31 and has 1.5 years (at the deadline) left on his contract. Trevor Bauer was moved at that deadline with the same contract so we can only assume deGrom would command a much higher price coming off a Cy Young and heading towards another.


Jacob deGrom to Houston

The Astros were considering Wheeler due to the contract and wound up trading for Greinke and his terrible deal as a fall back. It's have to believe if deGrom were available, they wouldn't have jumped all over it.

NYM- Kyle Tucker, Forrest Whitley & Abraham Toro
HOU- Jacob deGrom


Zach Wheeler to Phillies

With the Mets selling at the deadline, they would send Wheeler out as well who was a FA at the end of the year. Obviously Philly liked him so the Mets could pick up a lower prospect or two for a rental.

NYM- Christopher Sanchez
PHI- Zach Wheeler


Had the Mets hired Bloom, it's hard to say they would not be in better position for 2021 and beyond. They would not have any major contracts on their roster, and they would have eight-top 100 prospects in their farm. Kelenic, Whitley, Patino, Mauricio, Alverez, Edwards, Gimenez and Baty. Along with Simeon Woods-Richardson, Anthony Kay, Justin Dunn, and a few other young players like Jordan Humphreys and Kevin Smith that have a shot to make an impact at the next level.

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02 Sep 2020 14:57:24
BVW's moves make sense when you consider the context of what's taking place in that organization.

One, the Mets wanted to win now. They were not poised for a long rebuild, and didn't have the prospect capital to pull off a short rebuild.

Two, I'd imagine the decision to sell the team was made well before they hired BVW. A rebuild would have cost the owners a significant amount of money in the sale. New owners love rebuilds, existing owners don't.

Three, recent updates on most of those Mets prospects haven't been kind to said prospects. I'd imagine BVW's front office nerds already knew this.

So it makes sense.

With that, your proposals don't.

The pricetag on Syndergaard was always going to demand a Gore or Tatis, which is why they didn't move him. You don't move cheap, controllable pitching for concession prospects.

The Astros were never paying that price. Whitley and Tucker were both nearing MLB ready last summer, and it's pretty evident they weren't going to move either of those guys, and certainly not both.

And the Wheeler trade would have been straight up bad terrible for NY. The compensatory pick the Mets got for Wheeler (ended up taking Isaiah Greene) was a better value for the Mets than anything they would have received at the deadline.

It's the same reason the Giants didn't move Bumgarner or Will Smith. They felt they could get better value in the extra draft than anything being offered in return.

BVW gets a lot of flak, but I think when you consider the context his team is in, it's easier to make sense of what he's doing.

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25 Aug 2020 19:18:40
Trade Deadline Moves for San Francisco:

Twins get: Evan Longoria, $20M
Giants get: Edwar Colina (RHP), Jhoan Duran (RHP)

Twins have one of the worst 3B situations - hitting a very nice 69 wRC+ from that position. Giants pay down some of that salary to get a better prospect (Duran).

Blue Jays get: Johnny Cueto
Giants get: Patrick Murphy (RHP), Sean-Reid Foley (RHP), Kevin Smith (SS).

Blue Jays can afford Cueto and are giving up "prospects" who probably need a change of scenery, and Smith is good, but has a really high variance in talent.

Padres get: Tony Watson
Giants get: Jeisson Rosario

The Padres need bullpen and while Rosario may be a steep price, the Padres can't keep everyone. He has to be protected this winter, along with a lot of prospects much better than him. Watson is a solid LHP and if Zaidi can get a solid prospect for Billy Hamilton, he'll get one for Watson.

Athletics get: Kevin Gausman
Giants get: Greg Deichmann

Zaidi knows what Oakland likes. Gausman would be a solid add for the remainder of the season.

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24 Aug 2020 17:50:13
Yankees Trade Deadline

Trade #1

Indians get Miguel Andujar, Clint Frazier, Deivi Garcia, Michael King, and Estevan Florial

Yankees get Francisco Lindor and Brad Hand


Trade #2

Brewers get Jasson Dominguez, Luis Gil, Luis Medina, and Anthony Volpe

Yankees get Josh Hader


Roster

Lineup (Healthy/Full Strength)

1B LeMahieu
RF Judge
SS Lindor
LF Stanton
DH Voit
2B Torres
C Sanchez
CF Hicks
3B Urshela

Bench

C Higashioka
1B Ford
IF Wade
OF Tauchman
OF Gardner

Rotation

Cole
Paxton
Tanaka
Montgomery
Happ

Bullpen

Loaisiga (Swingman)
Green (Fire Man)
Ottavino (Middle Reliever)
Britton (Middle Reliever)
Hand (7th Inning Setup Man)
Hader (8th Inning Setup Man)
Chapman (Closer)

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25 Aug 2020 19:19:46
Yankee fans: Dominguez is the next Mickey Mantle

Also Yankee fans: Let's trade him with other prospects for a reliever!

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26 Aug 2020 02:59:23
The trade with the Indians would go through if the Yankees didn’t think of the future. Yes Lindor is still under control till 2022 but if they would offer Frazier and Florial they would hurt in the OF since Stanton can’t stay healthy. The Yankees shouldn’t pick up the option on Gardner. So Frazier will take over in LF.

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24 Aug 2020 06:09:50
Toronto-Colorado trade

Jays get Nolan Arenado

Rockies get Jordan groshans, Simeon Woods-Richardson, Otto Lopez, Rowdy Tellez, Joe Panik

Rationale:

Toronto needs some veteran leadership and defence in their line up. Arenado provides that and a plus bat when in form. Toronto also has one of the largest and most financially stable ownerships in the mlb, which can pay Arenado now and afford the raises for their young stars in the future.

Colorado is likely done for the season and with the trade deadline approaching, they move off Arenados large contract, and stock the cupboard for the future. They get 2 grade A prospects in Groshans and and Woods-Richardson, a couple role player prospects in tellez and Lopez, and a role player to finish the season in Colorado.

Thoughts?

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20 Aug 2020 18:01:45
Reds Get:
- Matthew Boyd - LHP
- Sergio Alcantara - SS

Tigers Get:
- Jose Israel Garcia - SS
- Freddy Galvis - SS

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17 Aug 2020 14:43:55
NYM- Kris Davis & Grant Holmes
OAK- Robinson Cano & Amed Rosario

The A's are potentially losing Marcus Semien and Tony Kemp is not a full-time player. Rosario will replace Semien and Cano can handle 2B until sliding to DH in a year or so. The Mets get out of the Cano contract, but take on 1 year of Kris Davis and his $17 million. This allows the Mets to play Gimenez and Guillorme full-time giving them one of the (if not the) best defensive MIF in the game.

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10 Aug 2020 18:09:51
NY METS moves

Trade Rosario in a package for Matthew Boyd (Play Gimenez at SS)
When Stroman comes back put Matz and Wacha in pen

Starters - 5
deGrom
Stroman
Boyd
Porcello
Peterson

Pen - 10
(Rigties)
Lugo
Diaz
Bettances
Familia
Wacha
Gsellman
Drew Smith
Hughes
(Lefties)
Wilson
Matz

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