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10 Jul 2018 23:43:03
Yankees Trade Deadline Moves

Trade #1

Orioles get Miguel Andujar, Albert Abreu, Domingo German, Chases Shreve and Jonathon Holder

Yankees get Manny Machado and Zach Britton


Trade #2

Mets get Estevan Florial, Brandon Drury, Luis Medina, Tyler Wade, and Jordan Montgomery

Yankees get Jacob deGrom


Roster

Lineup

CF Hicks
RF Judge
3B Machado
DH Stanton
C Sanchez
SS Gregorius
1B Bird
2B Torres
LF Gardner

Bench

C Romine
IF Walker
Uti Torreyes
OF Frazier

Rotation

deGrom
Severino
Tanaka
Gray
Sabathia

Bullpen

Warren
Kahnle
Green
Robertson
Betances
Britton
Chapman

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11 Jul 2018 13:01:55
here we go again. while your trade making over the years has slightly improved, these are highly unrealistic. I don't see Cashman doing these as I don't think he would trade 5 players for 2 rentals. Plus Machado said he isn't moving from SS for anyone. Mets asking price is too high for Cashman's liking.

11 Jul 2018 21:57:31
Are you really a Yankee fan? Because you wrapped the future in a very neat box and bow and gifted it to the Mets and Orioles.

Not saying these are fair (the Machado trade is way to much, the deGrom trade seems awfully light), but I can't see Cashman mortgaging the future, especially at the cost of aiding a division opponent and a cross-town rival.

12 Jul 2018 03:40:20
I think I made the team better now and don’t think I gave away their future. They would still have Sanchez, Bird, Torres, Machado, Didi, Frazier, Hicks, Judge, Stanton, Austin, Torreyes, deGrom, Severino, Tanaka, Gray, Sheffield, Adams, Tate, Schmidt, and Sauer all under the age of 30 going into next season. Some are MLB players, some are prospects with high upside but they would still look to have a pretty bright future to me.

12 Jul 2018 17:57:52
The Yankees would still have a lot of young players to build off of. But it doesn't serve their best interest long-term to help the Orioles and Mets by bailing them out with premium young talent.

10 Jul 2018 23:06:31
giants trade
Hunter Pence and Melvin Adon

Rays trade
Diego Castilo and Taylor Walls

Giants dump huge salary lose good prospect in Adon, but do add Castillo to organization along with Walls


Rays add a veteran outfielder to the mix for the rest of year and a young prospect with higher ceiling to fill Castillos void and to create more opportunity to make 25-man roster
Pence brings leadership experience and defense to rays right now, could hit just a little more but that's okay

good trade for both sides

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11 Jul 2018 07:23:53
Giants will have to dump a better prospect than Melvin Adon to get rid of Pence's salary.

16 Jul 2018 20:18:44
LOL! Funny trade. Rays are trying to cut payroll not add to it. No need for Pence since we have Gomez as the old veteran with the low BA. Also the Rays who are depending on their bullpen a lot, will not give away a controllable arm for prospects.

10 Jul 2018 22:52:04
Giants need to pick up some additional bullpen pieces so I believe they go after Baltimore's Mychal Givens

Baltimore gives up
mychal givens and paul fry

Giants give up
Sam Coonrod, Logan Webb, and Chase d'arnaud

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11 Jul 2018 07:12:56
Givens still has 3 years of team control. And while struggling this year (thanks in large part to an outlier .350 BABIP), he's been stellar.

I'd imagine the Giants would need to give more.

01 Jul 2018 14:04:49
Mets

I think the Mets are about to have one of the biggest overhauls in a long time. They have a lot of valuable pieces and are not going to win soon.


NYM- 3B Miguel Andjuar, OF Estavan Florial, LHP Justus Sheffield, RHP Chance Adams, RHP Dillon Tate
NYY- Jacob deGrom

NYM- 2B Keston Hiura, OF Domingo Santana, RHP Corbin Burnes
MIL- Noah Syndergaard

NYM- LHP Cionel Perez, RHP Jairo Solis
HOU- Jenrys Familia

NYM- RHP Grant Holmes, SS Richie Martin
OAK- Yoesnis Cespedes

NYM- C Andrew Knizner
STL- Asdrubal Cabrera

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02 Jul 2018 03:07:58
They could get a lot more for Syndergaard.

04 Jul 2018 16:52:02
I’d do all those trade except Thor.
I’d keep him because of his age and team control.
I’d look to trade wheeler if you can snag an ok return (obviously won’t be like thor) .

In the next few years you can have a rotation of
Thor, Matz, Adams, Sheffield, .

And young position players:
Florial, Nimmo, Conforto
Andjuar, Rosario, McNeil, Alonzo

That could be an exciting young team that could turn around Mets quickly.

11 Jul 2018 04:14:32
Not enough for Syndergaard? Really?

25 Jun 2018 03:03:04
Baltimore trade for
Jose Irene, Chad Kuhl, Amir Garrett

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29 Jun 2018 05:29:28
I'm guessing the first one is Jose Urena?

They aren't bad names for the Orioles, but I'd be curious as to who you think they'd give up for them.

25 Jun 2018 03:00:36
Baltimore go all in give them anyone except T. Scott, M. Castro, A. Hays, C. Sisco for DeGrom & Noah need pitching.

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25 Jun 2018 06:12:27
what are you on? Baltimore is nearly 30 games out of first, and 12.5 games away from 4th.

25 Jun 2018 14:39:59
All about future bro will be good next year.

25 Jun 2018 18:41:09
they have no farm and have little to offer for DeGrom. they are losing Machado, Britton, Jones, and others at the end of the year. Chris Davis is garbage. Next year? Try 5-6 years.

29 Jun 2018 05:30:20
Wait, two of the best pitchers in baseball, and you're not willing to give up the only good Orioles young players? Do you even know how this works?

23 Jun 2018 04:00:29
Mets rebuild:

Yankees get: Jacob DeGrom
Mets get: Miguel Andujar, Chance Adams, Justus Sheffield, Clint Frazier


Astros get: Jeurys Familia
Mets get: Cionel Perez, JD Davis, Derek Fisher


Braves get: Todd Frazier
Mets get: Touki Toussaint, PTBNL


Red Sox get: Yoenis Cespedes
Mets get: Jalen Beeks, Chandler Shepherd, Tzu-Wei Lin, Michael Chavis

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27 Jun 2018 01:52:55
No way the Yankees get deGrom for that cheap.

03 Jul 2018 03:52:31
Stat, c'mon-Cheap? 4 players ranked in Top 100 prospects in '17 and '18. Sale-didn't get 4. What pitcher was traded for 4 Top 100 prospects? Stop hating on the Yanks prospects. Baseball America ranks them 2nd best minor system. Mets would jump on that offer. 25 years of control for stud pitcher with 2.5 left who they won't win with.

06 Jul 2018 14:11:48
No, the Yankees won't convince the Mets (who haven't traded with the Yankees in-season since 2003) for anything short of a heist.

deGrom is a top 15-20 pitcher in the league. Start thinking an absurd package you don't want to lose in order to acquire him.

06 Jul 2018 14:25:13
Also, the Red Sox gave up the (pretty much) undisputed #1 prospect in baseball at the time for Chris Sale, along with other highly touted young prospects.

Or think of it this way, Cole Hamels, when traded from Philadelphia to Texas, received more than deGrom gets in the above deal. And Hamels was owed nearly a hundred million dollars on his deal still.

The Yankees would get two more seasons of arbitration with deGrom. I would fully expect the Mets to ask the moon for a guy whose 5th since 2015 in Pitching WAR and still under team control. Hint: the return above ain't close to the moon.

06 Jul 2018 17:39:59
Only 1 of the other top prospects for Sale was a Top 100 at the time-Kopech. The others weren't. No 4 Top 100 prospects were given up for SP. That's all I said-which is correct. As for Mets trading with Yankees-we all know that's NEVER going to happen without ridiculous overpay. But let's see how intelligent you are-would it or not be beneficial to Mets franchise to trade DeGrom for proposed 4-for-1 above? Never mind public relations or trading to inter-city rivals. Would it make Mets better set up for future than 2.5 years of DeGrom? That's all above proposal is attempting. Trade that will benefit both sides. We know Mets won't do it. Yanks won't do your crazy overpay either. Is it fair? YES. Will it happen? No.

06 Jul 2018 22:18:36
Something else not mentioned here: the Yankees don't have a ton of leverage right now. After Severino, Sabathia is the only decent pitcher they have, and that's it. And even Sabathia would be greatly disadvantaged versus most teams #2 starters in the playoffs.

Do the Yankees want to run with Gray, German, and trust on Tanaka to be healthy come playoff time? Of course not. They NEED that front-line starter, and you can bet your bottom dollar every team knows it.

The Dodgers are in the same boat, and teams will do everything to gouge them and the Yankees. Because let's face it, they can't afford to just stand there and do nothing.

07 Jul 2018 09:58:24
No, the Mets don't benefit from trading deGrom for a a light return, especially if they are helping out a cross-town rival.

At this point, Yankee fans better just expect a boring trade for someone like J. A. Happ (and watch them hugely overpay for him) and move on from the blockbuster trades for an ace. It simply won't happen. No one is taking a bunch of question-mark minor leaguers for a legitimate ace, they want superstars. You can fill in the blank for who that superstar may be. If you think it's Andujar, you're probably a Yankee fan.

10 Jul 2018 22:14:44
Stat-Here are some facts. The Yanks are 37-3 in games with Quality start. Think about that! JA Happ would provide more QS's-not boring. More facts-CC had 2.34 ERA in playoffs last year, Tanaka 0.90.Which one would be "greatly disadvantaged? " You don't know what you are talking about. As for Andujar-ranked #4 3B prospect in baseball. Has 40 extra base hits in half year-more than any rookie. Here's a simple question-who would White Sox rather have as compensation for Sale-Andujar or "undisputed" top prospect Moncada. Just check out OPS. .808 vs .706. If Moncada is a "superstar"- then so is Andujar. BTW-read Giants wanted Sheffield, Andujar and Frazier for MadBum. I may be a "Yankee fan" but at least I know baseball.

11 Jul 2018 03:36:48
Their starters not named Luis Severino have a combined 4.94 ERA this year. That is not good. They NEED a starter. I'd say they should be desperate for one. That desperation will come at a premium.

Also, where did you read what the Giants asked for Bumgarner? You probably read the article from nj. com that suggested what the Yankees could give for Bumgarner, but there's been no hint of an asking price from Evans, and rightly so: he's not available.

Also, if you're going to see what the Giants would "want", it's probably best to read Bay Area newspapers, not New York ones. Bay Area papers don't care about what Yankee fans think. New Jersey papers do.

11 Jul 2018 04:00:05
So until you find me a post that says what the GIANTS asked the Yankees for, and not some silly "Here's how a Madison Bumgarner trade could work" article from a New York newspaper whose job it is to sell papers to clueless bandwagon fans, let's end the Bumgarner nonsense. It's a complete pipe dream.

As far as the Andujar/ Moncada comparison is concerned, Andujar is very good. I've never once denied it. Most scouts would still take Moncada. Andujar isn't a superstar. No scouts believe it. Hell, even the Yankees don't believe it. How do I know? They are actively trying to trade for Manny Machado. You don't give up premium prospects to replace a superstar.

But I'm not going to continue to waste time on you. You can't see beyond your own team. You're the prototypical Yankee fan, thinking every young player is some future HOF. You are unreasonable, ridiculous, and it's just not worth my time.

Have fun watching the Yankees give up premium talent for J. A. Happ or Cole Hamels. I'm sure it'll be a lot of fun watching the Red Sox fly past them in the playoffs.

11 Jul 2018 04:46:33
One last thing: someone who "knows baseball" knows that postseason stats are a) the worst way to measure a player and b) don't always repeat. If Sonny Gray pitches his way to a 0.60 playoff ERA this season, it doesn't make him a great pitcher. It also doesn't mean that you can rely on it next season.

It's the same reason I rarely cite Bumgarner's success in the postseason, or use Kershaw's postseason woes to speak ill of him. It's a horrible measurement.

If you think the Yankees are going to be fine trying to use Sabathia as their #2 starter in the post-season, you're insane. You think he can compete with Trevor Bauer or Gerrit Cole? I doubt even the Yankees feel that he can internally. That rotation will get eaten alive in the postseason, just as they have all season long (sans Severino) .

Their 2-5 guys have combined for 3.8 WAR. That would rank them 23rd in baseball. They need someone, and need someone immediately. They will lose in the postseason without someone (I'd say they need 2 premium starters just to even try and compete) .

11 Jul 2018 15:20:06
How have the Yanks rotation been eaten alive all season? They have 39-19 record and best ERA in June and 3rd in July. These are FACTS. Try using them for once. Here are facts-Yanks have 2nd rated minor league system in baseball. Posts here are offering 3 or 4 top prospect in system and you say they are not good enough. You are the one who has slanted opinions-not me. As for you saying most scouts would still take Moncada-show me proof of that. You can't. again you are making rubbish up to support your argument. Again-I state facts, you state uninformed opinions. How are Yanks desperate when they are 37-3 with quality starts? They are not desperate. They would like dependable starter-that is not desperation. BTW-still waiting for you to point out 1 specific instance where i was wrong. Waiting. waiting. waiting.

11 Jul 2018 21:51:41
Let's see, I've called you out for making up an asking price for Bumgarner. It's nowhere to be found, because the Giants haven't even considered trading him. (You realize the reason they want to get under the tax is to extend Bumgarner, right? )

I've called you out on saying the Yankees 2-5 guys are good. They aren't. A 4.98 ERA after Severino. That is unbelievably putrid. A 3.8 WAR for their other starters. In other words if Severino gets hurt, the Yankees rank 23rd in starting pitching WAR, and 26th in ERA. I don't know how anyone would think the Yankees can compete with that. Are you expecting Severino to pitch every game? Honest question.

I don't see how the Yankees win a series in the playoffs with that staff, especially if they can't win the division. If they play in the WC game, they may not even get to Severino in a series, that's how bad it's been. Severino has all but carried that staff. They are desperate, or at least they ought to be.

My guess is, though, Cashman will sit back and continue to count his top prospects. And he'll continue doing so in mid-October while other teams are blowing by them with pitching that actually looks like a contending baseball team.

A 4.98 ERA and 3.8 WAR among all other starting pitchers. To use your catchphrase, "These are FACTS".

Let's look at the potential matchups, after Severino. Note: this all assumes they play in the Wild Card, thus losing the Severino matchup

Versus Boston- Sabathia/ Sale, Tanaka/ Porcello, Gray/ Price. This remains likely their only hope.

Versus Cleveland- Sabathia/ Kluber, Tanaka/ Bauer, Gray/ Carrasco. They are disadvantaged in all three matchups, significantly.

Versus Houston- Sabathia/ Verlander, Tanaka/ Cole, Gray/ Keuchel. Double the advantage the Indians had.

Again, this assumes the Yankees make it out of the Wild Card game. Because standing pat will lose them the division.

And sub in some rookie for Gray if you want. It won't matter. They need an actual, legitimate starter to help out. And that will come at a price where teams recognize how desperate they are. Even a J. A. Happ rental will come at a very hefty price.

12 Jul 2018 02:31:42
According to McCovey Chronicles-don't count out Mad Bum trade. They are NOT A YANKEE website. Here'a another fact-Yanks' 2-5 have winning record against Bos, Hous Cleve and Seattle. Tanaka and CC haven't lost to any of those teams this year. FACT! How could they possibly win with this staff? Same staff went to 7 games in ALCS. As for matchups-the fact that you included Price in your matchups show you don't know anything. Price will not be pitching against Yanks. After that, I couldn't stop laughing to look at your other matchups. Remember, playoffs are mostly decided by bullpens anyway. Another thing-you keep saying Yanks won't win division. If Yanks win div, will you say you were wrong and not comment on any posts for month. Doubt it. BTW-how's Quintana doing? You still think he's a Top 10-15 SP?

12 Jul 2018 03:13:09
Stat- I should have known better than to take your stats at face value. Yankee starters not named Severino have combined 4.52 ERA. NOT 4.98. MLB. com stats. Ask someone to help with the math. Bosox starters other than Sale have 4.25 ERA. Would you rather have staff with 4.52 ERA starters and Yankee bullpen OR 4.25 starter ERA and Bosox bullpen? Before you answer-remember relievers accounted for more wins in AL postseason than starters.

12 Jul 2018 09:14:02
McCovey Chronicles is a fan site. Grant Brisbee hasn’t been granted interviews or media access for years now and he’s not even Twitter verified anymore.

Take whatever he says and ignore it. He’s not a journalist with access to the team.

I’ll do that bet, only if you promise to never post here ever should the Red Sox win the division. I think that’s fair.

As for the math, sorry. I counted a couple non-starts from a few guys. That still ranks them 23rd inERA and WAR if not for Severino carrying that rotation. That’s only three places better than I originally had. Quit acting like they are fine. They really aren’t.

12 Jul 2018 09:33:10
How does including Price show that I don’t know anything? Cora has been adamant about using him as a starter. Will he start in the postseason? I don’t know. But he’s been a staple in that rotation. It’s not an absurd suggestion. And certainly not one that would suggest someone is clueless. You’re grasping for straws now.

Anyway, this is the last I’m commenting to you. You have the maturity of a blade of grass and you seem to misunderstand any level of nuance. You also have no clue how to source information or seek out reliable information (i. e. confusing a fan site as an actual news source) . And yet you keep insulting me as though you’re some expert. It’s ironic.

Right now, you’ve caught me on a math error and found a bad prediction I made last year (while I’m flattered I take up space in your memory, it’s also extremely creepy) . You seem to know very little outside your beloved Yankees.

So I’ll let you continue to play pocket pool to their prospect list and we’ll move on. Capeesh?

13 Jul 2018 13:54:47
The more you post, the more you show you don't know. from Quintana to Gray-you prove it constantly. It's not a math error I caught you on-it's making up rubbish to support your misguided opinions. Your are a whiny little crybaby who doesn't like to be told they're wrong. Well you are! If this hurts your feelings-too bad. For someone who has stat in their handle, how can you make an such a math error. JOKE! BTW-Yanks have 2nd best staff ERA in league. And BAA. And WHIP. Have you ever agreed with another's post? That's why I remember and only respond to you. You are such a fool.

13 Jul 2018 17:23:00
"Making up rubbish to support your misguided opinions"

Kind of like making up the Bumgarner asking price? Interesting.

"Your are a whiny little crybaby who doesn't like to be told they're wrong. "

It's "YOU'RE". For someone telling me I'm constantly wrong, you'd serve well to check your grammar. FOOL.

"For someone who has stat in their handle, how can you make an such a math error. "

God forbid anyone ever make an error. Like a spelling error. Or calling an SB Nation website journalism. Geez, Mitch, you're so perfect.

I also forgot that a 4.52 ERA is so beyond stellar. Where do I line up to vote Sonny Gray for Cy Young?

My bad, Mitch. You're always right. And because you're always right, I'm sure you can celebrate in October after the Yankees get eliminated with a 3.8 WAR post-ace staff.

13 Jul 2018 17:42:29
For what it's worth, the Yankee's "second-best ERA" pertains to their bullpen and rotation with Severino. The discussion has been the rotation after Severino, not Johnny Wholestaff. Try to keep up.

As for agreeing with other posts, I have. Ask Batman, ask others. More often than not, when I disagree, I usually share why. I do my best to not insult people, but often the disagreement needs to be stern to get a point across. But finding agreement with folks on this site is rare, in large part to the massive homers like yourself.

Also, your insults don't hurt my feelings. They just show you aren't worth anyone's time. Most folks have rightly ignored you, because you're a little child who thinks insulting someone makes you more right.

Here's my challenge, it's two-fold:

1) Post 5 posts about a team aside from the Yankees. Show us you know about other teams. You can't insult someone when you do nothing to prove yourself.

2) Go 10 posts without calling someone a "fool" a "joke" or claiming "you don't know anything".

Earn some credit on here. Because everyone ignores you. I'm literally the only person who even responds to you, and even I have to question if I should, but I fear for your personal safety if everyone ignores you. I'm helping you, don't insult me.

19 Jul 2018 22:13:44
"Your" is a typographical error- not grammatical. Read it again-have someone help you with it.
1-I told you Quintana isn't a Top 10-15 SP. I am right. You are wrong. This is not about the Yankees. Maybe you thinking he is shows that you are the "homer. "
2-I challenge you to show one time I have called someone a "joke' or "you don't know anything. " You can't. It's just you that I have a problem with. You represent as a knowledgable fan-you don't know shit.
Again-show me 1 time you agreed with an original post.
For what it's worth-the Yanks will be pitching their whole staff during playoffs-not just Severino. Try to keep up.
Bullpens decide more playoff games than not. Yanks have best bullpen in baseball. They are 57-2 when leading after 6 innings. These are FACTS. I give you facts-you give me "most scouts still prefer Moncada over Torres. " Still waiting for any proof of where you got that from.
I have cited many times where I've gotten my info from-Ken Rosenthal, Jon Heyman, Buster Olney etc. Then you post they don't know anything. When you called me a homer and I cited McCovey chronicle you had problem with that too. No, you know better-you fool.
One more thing. I stated that Yanks will still win division. I wanted to bet on it. After Sox opened up 4.5 game lead-you decided that it should be "not posting forever. " Even with that deficit, I will still take that bet for 1 month. Will you? Not having what you consider human interaction for a month would probably kill you.

21 Jul 2018 04:56:47
I have a problem with McCovey Chronicles being used as a source for anything, or even being thought of as reliable. They aren't. I mentioned Grant Brisbee, who isn't even working for them anymore. It's now ran by Bryan Murphy (who I have had correspondence with in the past) . It's a far, far less reliable place without him (it didn't have any to begin with) .

If you found me an article from John Shea, Henry Schulman, Andrew Baggarly, or Alex Pavlovic, I would gladly accept it and consider it. Alas, you won't. That's why I called it dumb. Because you clearly don't understand how journalism works if you think an SB Nation page is remotely credible. Give me something from a blue checkmark on Twitter, then we'll talk. I'm obviously not going to accept anything from a fan site.

I'll take the bet. Only because it'll be a nice vacation for everyone on this site to see you disappear for 30 days. It'll give you more time to come up with absurd homerisms regarding your beloved Spankees.

21 Jul 2018 05:07:39
The "Quintana a top 15 SP" defense came from a 4-year evaluation of his WAR. From 2014-2017, he was an 18.4 win player, good for 7th in that span. Add that to his insanely team friendly contract and his 3.5 years of control (at time of trade), he was an incredibly valuable commodity, and the Cubs gave up a very, very big return for him (they cleared the farm for him) .

You're literally calling me wrong over a half season of data vs. 4 years of data.

For someone who insists on telling me "I know nothing", you'd think you'd understand sample sizes a little more.

21 Jul 2018 05:10:18
I also ask you to show me proof where I said Heyman and Rosenthal know nothing. I stand behind Olney not knowing anything (he regurgitates tweets from other journalists and steals credit) .

23 Jul 2018 20:12:06
Stop making excuses. Has Quintana been a Top 10-15 SP since his trade? No! Just admit it. You were wrong. When I quote someone else (like Brisbee) how can you say I'm making it up? Meanwhile-where are the scouts that would prefer Moncada over Torres? You must've made it up. You may not agree with Brisbee but don't claim I made it up. In conclusion-you are constantly wrong with your evaluations. You make up stuff-I don't. Your math sucks. Even when you try to correct my error-you screw that up. And your not man enough to stand by your convictions. Total loser. Even my 2 young daughters laugh at you when they read your posts.

23 Jul 2018 20:38:04
This will be Quintana's second straight year of having a WAR under under 3.0. That is not a Top 10-15 SP. Top 25-35, sure. Maybe you should reconsider how you evaluate talent. I was obviously right-no matter HOW I came to my conclusion. You were wrong- no matter how you try to justify it. Try learning from your mistakes. There are many to learn from.

12 Jun 2018 18:02:43
Mets

The Mets are in a position that will force them to rebuild. They have old players and are not going to win anytime soon. deGrom is the big piece and they should fetch a decent return for him.

NYM- Miguel Andujar, Justus Sheffield, Chance Adams, Domingo Acevedo
NYY- Jacob deGrom

NYM- Nolan Jones, Willi Castro
CLE- Yoenis Cespedes

NYM- Touki Toussaint
ATL- Todd Frazier

NYM- Wyatt Mills
SEA- Asdrubal Cabrera

NYM- Jairo Solis
HOU- Jeurys Familia

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18 Jun 2018 00:38:31
not nearly enough for familia.

09 Jun 2018 16:07:10
Yankees Trade Deadline Ideas

Trade #1

Giants get Miguel Andujar, Estevan Florial, Jordan Montgomery, Tyler Wade, and Luis Medina

Yankees get Madison Bumgarner


Trade #2

Mets get Miguel Andujar, Estevan Florial, Jordan Montgomery, Tyler Wade, and Luis Medina

Yankees get Jacob deGrom


Trade #3

Rangers get Brandon Drury, Tyler Wade, and Luis Medina

Yankees get Cole Hamels


Which one is the most fair or makes the most sense for all parties involved?

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10 Jun 2018 14:47:11
The first two are highly unlikely. The Giants are to stubborn to trade Bumgarner. And the Mets would never make a big trade with the Yankees. Hamels is the most likely one here. But it may take one of their top prospect like Clint Frazier to get it done.

10 Jun 2018 18:37:52
Hand over Luis Severino and Gleyber Torres and the Giants will gladly hand over Bumgarner.

27 Jun 2018 02:00:04
I'm curious as to what you think the Giants would accept for Bumgarner, Mitch. Don't give me some Yankee-friendly deal, or your opinion.

I want to know: considering what Bumgarner has done for the Giants, his contract situation, his age, and how popular he is among the fans, if you were Bobby Evans, what would be the absolute lowest package you'd send him to New York for?

I'll start: Gleyber Torres, Justus Sheffield, Estevan Florial, Albert Abreu.

What would Evans accept for Bumgarner from New York?

29 Jun 2018 04:04:10
First, Stat-give me 1 time a contending team traded away an everyday starter (borderline all-star) like Torres for great starter. They do not weaken line-ups. Can't think of 1 example. Not Verlander, Sabathia, etc. Maybe, Lackey for Cespades, A's were looking to dump him. Bum has 1 and a half years left on contract. NO WAY you get 21 yr old ROY! Bum's 2nd yr in a row missing at least 10 starts. Reasonable package-Frazier/ Florial, Abreu, German, Drury/ Austin. Won't happen cause Giants won't trade "face. " Again, by putting Torres in any package is ridiculous. NEVER has a ROY leader gotten traded at deadline. Never.

29 Jun 2018 05:24:30
Mitch, you seem to think I actually think the trade will happen. It won't.

But I'm becoming more convinced you think the Giants will just hand over Bumgarner. They absolutely won't.

Heck, if you think the Giants are trading Bumgarner (who will no doubt extend his contract very soon), you're far crazier than I thought. He's going to be a Giant for life.

30 Jun 2018 16:38:19
Never said they would hand him over. I said they probably won't trade him. My package includes options of 3 major league ready players plus Top 100 SP. OR, 2 ready plus 2 Top 100 prospects. My offer is more than fair. SP's are most fragile. Look at Kershaw, Mad Bum, Syndegaard, Yu, etc. All have missed significant time. If you think 25+ years of control for 3+ players who are/ were Top 100 prospects last 2 years for 1 and a half years of control of SP who has missed 10+ starts each of last 2 years isn't fair- you are crazy. Think of it this way-will Giants win series this year or next with Mad Bum? NO! Why not get 4 players with high end potential? They should, but they won't. Same situation with Mets.

30 Jun 2018 19:46:51
I don't effing care what the Yankees think is "fair". Nor will Bobby Evans. He will demand Torres and won't budge. And actually, probably a lot more than Torres.

He hasn't seemed the slightest bit worried about the Giants' future, and I don't know why you think he will now.

He's not trading Bumgarner unless he gets back an absolutely silly, insane package he can't turn down. Such a package would cripple any team for a long, long time.

Yankee fans need to move on from the Bumgarner nonsense. It's not happening.

03 Jul 2018 03:33:24
We all know Mad Bum is not getting traded. But, like I said-asking for Torres is ridiculous. Give me 1 example of the LEADING ROY candidate being traded at deadline. It doesn't happen. If you think he will be traded-you really don't get this at all.
Again-Mad Bum will not be traded. Gleyber will not be traded. Giants will not win Series with or without Mad Bum in '18 or '19.

06 Jul 2018 14:14:34
Of course it's ridiculous to ask for Gleyber Torres. That's the entire damn point I'm making.

I seriously can't tell if you're being intentionally obtuse or if it's just natural. I really hope, for your sake, this is just an act you play online. But I'm not convinced.

06 Jul 2018 23:49:24
If it's ridiculous asking for Torres-why even post it? It seems like you're either bored and looking for someone to argue with OR you just like being a contrarian. We all know 99% of proposed trades here won't happen. It's fun reading and discussing. I usually don't respond unless I see a ridiculous post, like yours. It's funny how you constantly disagree with me-yet have never shown me to be wrong on any of my posts. Just sayin'

07 Jul 2018 15:32:52
I simply said the price the Giants will demand for Bumgarner. It was more tongue in cheek than anything else.

Mind you, it was YOU who couldn't see the point I was making and made it a goal to try and disagree with me. So don't sit in some ivory tower calling out others for disagreeing. I simply stated what the Giants would want, and it was obviously something the Yankees would never pay. I think anyone with two brain cells to rub together could infer that.

You keep calling it ridiculous: THAT WAS THE POINT! It's pathetic I have to reiterate this to you. The Giants will demand a ridiculous return for him, so I simply said what it would probably be and gave something ridiculous. This wasn't a difficult concept to grasp.

08 Jun 2018 09:24:37
Machado to Phillies
Balt recieve
Alex bohm
Miguel franco
Nick williams
J d hammer

Agree2 Disagree16

08 Jun 2018 14:03:47
Bohm can't be traded, he was just drafted.

 


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