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09 Dec 2017 00:32:41
Phillies trades Cesar Hernandez to
Brewers for, RHP Freddy Peralta, RHP Corbin Burnes

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09 Dec 2017 00:05:37
Giants get: Manny Machado and Darren O'Day

Orioles get: Heliot Ramos, Chris Shaw, Tyler Beede, and PTBNL

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09 Dec 2017 05:12:02
Giants wouldn’t get him that cheap. They’re better off waiting til/ if he becomes a free agent.

04 Dec 2017 23:05:26
angels and yankees trade:

Yankees get:CF: Mike Trout, 1B C. J. Cron and P Jose Suarez

Angels get: 2B Starlin Castro, 3B Gleyber Torres,P Jorge Guzman , P Chance Adams, 1B Greg Bird and Clint Frazier

potential lineups

Angels: CF Clint Frazier
LF- Justin Upton
DH- Albert Pujols
2B- Starlin Castro
SS-Andrelton Simmons
3B Gleyber Torres
1B Greg Bird
RF Kole Calhoun
C Carlos Perez

Rotation
1. Garrett Richards
2.Matt Shoemaker
3. Chance adams
4. Jorge Guzman
5. J.C. Ramirez

Yankees lineup:

LF-Brett Gardner
SS-Didi Gregoriuos
CF- Mike Trout
RF- Aaron Judge
C- Gary Sanchez
1B CJ Cron
DH- Aaron Hicks
2B Tyler Wade
3B Miguel Andújar

Rotatio 1. Luis Severino
2. Sonny Gray
3.Masahiro Tanaka
4.Jordan Montgomery
5. Justus Sheffield

Both teams give up a lot, however i think this trade helps both sides. it gives the angels a staple at multiple postion for years to come and 2 potential future cy youg award winners. this trade gives the yankees one of the top outfield duo in the game and at a young age. next year year yankees have money coming off the books and can still go for machado. and the yankees still have some top pitching prospects to add to their rotation.

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06 Dec 2017 06:19:26
This is why most MLB fans despise Yankee fans.

06 Dec 2017 12:59:29
I’m a Yankee fan thestatbook and I wouldn’t even consider this. I’d rather keep the team we have now and wait for Harper and Machado.

06 Dec 2017 22:02:39
Newsflash: if you want a guy like Mike Trout, think to yourself, "what's a package I absolutely would never want the Yankees to give up for any player? "

Then double it.

I promise you, this wouldn't be remotely close enough for Trout.

07 Dec 2017 14:42:19
so what your talking like 10 players for Trout?

07 Dec 2017 15:07:19
Or 4-5 really, really, really good ones.

Their top 3-4 prospects, plus Sanchez and Severino.

07 Dec 2017 15:11:42
Moral of the story: There’s not a snowball’s chance in hell the Yankees land the best player in baseball and not give up the most insane return we’ll ever see. We can debate all day what that means, but it’s not going to be Torres, an overpaid 2B, and a bunch of lottery tickets.

It’ll be multiple established, young MLB players, Torres, and every top prospect that team has.

07 Dec 2017 17:01:44
I personally don't see the Angels trading Trout. I don't see him signing a long term contract to stay there. So after 2020 he will be free agent. These pipe dream trades need to stop.

07 Dec 2017 17:59:47
I don't either. But to even move the needle, the Angels will want the world. This notion that the Yankees, or any team, can acquire premium talent without giving up something that would really, really hurt.

It gets old and these people never learn from the many, many comments that come on here that these are bad ideas. I think that's why it gets frustrating.

07 Dec 2017 18:17:08
yeah I know what you mean some aren't learning, and without naming anyone in particular, keep posting the same thing over and over again.

08 Dec 2017 02:36:12
Subtle.

16 Dec 2017 02:46:04
why is tanaka and gray both throwing behind severino.

17 Dec 2017 12:48:37
(facepalm)

30 Nov 2017 00:16:59
A few years back the mets turned down a trade with the cubs for starlin Castro. They refused to give up their prized prospect Dillion gee. Do you guys think the mets would be interested in a trade for starlin Castro at this time?


Mets would receive: Aaron Hicks and Starlin Castro and Miguel Andujar

Yankees would receive: Gavin Cecchini and Wilmer Flores

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30 Nov 2017 17:28:47
Why would the Yankees even consider this, it is terrible move for them.

02 Dec 2017 04:32:58
I think Starlin could be a good fit on the other side of town, but this is a terrible trade for the Yankees. Why are Hicks and Andujar in the trade?

28 Nov 2017 15:23:38
I think Boone or Woodward would be good managers for the Yankees. Any thoughts ?

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29 Nov 2017 21:02:13
It's beyond silly that the Yankees, who want to win another WS, are even entertaining the idea of a manager with no coaching experience.

17 Dec 2017 19:40:19
At least Boone has experience in the World Series.

20 Nov 2017 02:56:38
Javy Baez for Parker Bridwell/Cam Bedrosian

Why for Cubs?
They get two bright young pitchers with 4 and 5 years on control respectively to fill their biggest needs and they still have Zobrist and Happ at 2B.

Why for Angels?
They get their long term answer at 2B who would provide a great double play partner with Simmons. Plus they still would have Richards, Heaney, Skaggs, Shoemaker, Ramirez, Tropeano, etc in their rotation plus they still would have money to spend.

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20 Nov 2017 08:21:16
Doubt the Cubs would do it. They likely believe they can get a better pitcher for Baez.

18 Dec 2017 01:43:48
Baez is worth more than those two combined.

10 Nov 2017 14:22:08
And to answer your question, they are taking on all the money.

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10 Nov 2017 14:21:30
Why would the Yankees give up Judge in a package. He is the centerpiece of that team.

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06 Nov 2017 22:07:36
Chi Sox, did you see Fangraphs' Steamer projections for 2018?

Their projection for Garcia:
.281/ .339/ .454, 19 HR, 69 RBI.

If you look back, what I stated their projection would be: .285, 20 HR, 70 RBI.

You said you'd bookmark your projections. I've got mine, and I got them almost to a tee with what Fangraphs put.

For reference, yours were: .295, 28 HR, 90 RBI.

We shall see.

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07 Nov 2017 02:04:07
I don't normally like to gloat, as I generally let the truth speak for itself.

But considering his recent statements, I thought I'd remind him of where we stand.

07 Nov 2017 03:48:37
Truly amazing, statbook. I really wish I could show you how impressed I am that you were finally right . on a . projection.

It's crazy how they can project those things without even knowing who will be hitting around him yet.

07 Nov 2017 04:00:08
And yet, there you were, arguing with me about how ludicrous the projection was.

And no, it's not that crazy, except the RBI projection, which really is pretty much garbage and no one cares a bit about it (I just wanted to reveal how close I was) .

Notice the HR projection? Not close to 30, at all. Haha.

07 Nov 2017 04:15:05
Notice too, that even Fangraphs think Garcia is going to regress hardcore? EVERY point I stated (of which you insisted to argue with me) was featured in these projections.

If we give him a few more hits to make him a .290 hitter, his BABIP is .350, exactly. (You also argued that .350 BABIP doesn't make him a .290 hitter) .

It's almost as if I knew what I was talking about.

07 Nov 2017 18:31:28
I didn't say your prediction was ludicrous, I just disagreed with it.

08 Nov 2017 11:32:44
Batting average and OBP are also affected by who is hitting around you. Aka baseball common sense if you've ever played. But we don't have to get into that again.


You made your projections based on what is on Fangraphs already, so when they slightly update their new projections in early NOVEMBER, you haven't really proven anything. But hey, I know you crave being right in any facet on this site. We get it, we know your narrative. "I'm always right, everyone else is always wrong. "

I'm also curious to see what Avi's 2017 streamer projections were in November.

Nonetheless, happy hot stove season.

08 Nov 2017 13:47:35
No, I made my projections based on his 2017 numbers, and considered standard regression, and didn’t elevate any totals to unnecessary or absurd levels (i. e. home runs) . I did all this before Fangraphs put out their Steamer projections.

And the projections won’t change drastically with updates to teams. They might change slightly, but they won’t see Garcia as some .300/ .360 guy simply because they improved at catcher (or wherever) . It’ll be very small, almost unnoticeable changes. It might go up as high as .285, because the projections still have to account for BABIP regression, moderate power, and low-to-average speed.

If the White Sox go out and add J. D. Martinez or something, maybe these projections will see a massive swing, but don’t bet on it happening. ZiPS will likely strike a similar note when they come out in February.

31 Oct 2017 04:04:36
I just read that the Marlins are wanting to dump Prado Gordon and Stantons contract who do you think they would trade each too?

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01 Nov 2017 03:54:15
Stanton- who knows? It's going to be a team who is willing to take a gamble on that contract. If he gets hurt, you have $250+ MM in dead salary.

Gordon- Blue Jays, Angels, or Brewers.

Prado- Stays in Miami. Plenty of 3B options, not enough openings.

 


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