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31 Jul 2017 20:20:53
Yanks get Sonny Gray
A's get Mateo, Fowler and Kapreilian.

Hey Stat-you said the Yanks would have to give up 2 of Torres, Frazier, Adams, Florial and Sheffield. You couldn't have been more wrong. They didn't even give up 1. It's OK-say it-"I was Wrong" It's not that hard.

Drake-you said that a package headlined by Mateo or Sheffield would be easily outbid by other teams. WRONG! You can say it-"I was wrong" Also, you made fun of me for saying that Theo Epstein was "Desperate. " In Ken Rosenthal's July 29th post-he qoutes-"The parallels are not precise — Quintana, 28, is nearly a year older than Gray and under control for three-plus seasons as opposed to two-plus.

The Cubs also were more desperate for a controllable starter, lacking the young major-league ready pitching talent the Yankees can use to fill rotation openings next season. " He agrees with me.

So, in conclusion I was proven right and stat and drake-you were wrong. Are you going to be man enough to admit it? YOU WERE WRONG!


1.) 31 Jul 2017 22:48:36
I was wrong about the Frazier/ Torres comment. I'll admit it.

But you realize Mateo, Fowler, Kaprelian is a better return than your suggestion of Mateo + Florial, right? Many, many scouts think the A's got a fantastic return. I thought there was a bigger market for Gray.

2.) 31 Jul 2017 22:50:29
You seem like the guy who loses every game, and the one time you win, you pretend you're better than everyone.

3.) 31 Jul 2017 23:16:29
Also, for what it's worth, Rosenthal (who "agrees" with you) along with many others believed it was necessary for Frazier or Torres to be included. Many were surprised by the return.

The market for Gray was weaker than believed. Oakland still got a great return considering.

4.) 31 Jul 2017 23:38:04
Hey Mitch you really don't need to brag about this, it makes you look bad and like a sore winner.

5.) 01 Aug 2017 00:11:27
Lol, the second I saw this trade go through I knew this post was coming.

Definitely was wrong. Cashman did really well. Package wasn't as bad as most are making it out to be but really thought they'd get a lot more.

6.) 01 Aug 2017 01:10:54
I took a lot of abuse from you two guys. I usually don't respond to many of the ridiculous posts. But you two went above and beyond. No hard feelings, Drake- gained respect for you. But-stat-3 more posts and still nasty. "Lost every game". Please provide me with anything that shows I lost every time. Ridiculous. Batman! -appreciate your opinions (especially when you agreed with me. ) But just last week- I posted to stat-wait till next week and we'll see who's right? He responded with nasty attack that stated I was stupid and I didn't know what I was talking about. He deserved my post.

7.) 01 Aug 2017 05:24:10
I apologize if you think we are going too far. I need to work on my aggressiveness, so I sincerely apologize.

Please also consider, you've now posted TWO posts where you intentionally bring up others to make fun of them. Not comments, but posts.

I'll back off, but you need to realize, when you bring people up in posts, they have every right to fire back.

I was wrong on the trade. You were wrong in gloating and going on the offense. Let's all move on.

8.) 04 Aug 2017 02:06:20
Great. Happy to hear it. Will look forward to debating future trades as long it doesn't get nasty. BTW-I totally agree with your posts on Mets and Red Sox.

9.) 05 Aug 2017 17:39:57
Guys, we are all wrong most of the time on this site.

I'll add this; we cannot predict what many MLB execs are doing because they often don't know themselves.

10.) 05 Aug 2017 17:43:14
Everyone on this site is wrong almost all the time; the only time someone is not wrong is when they copy from an actual trade.

That, sadly, is truth.



20 Dec 2016 16:41:05
Probably won't happen. What do you think.

Mets get B Gardner
Yanks get Granderson.

Mets get Gardner for 3 years @ reasonable price to play CF.

Yanks get Grandy lefty power for 1 year and move Frazier into LF in '18.

Money is similar 15- 12.5 mil.



1.) 20 Dec 2016 18:06:16
Pointless, Yankees are trying to cut payroll down by trading Gardner. This is counterproductive in those efforts. Also Gardner only has 2 years left on his contract.

2.) 20 Dec 2016 18:37:24
Batman-Gardner has club option in year 3. (12.5/ yr) As for patroll, Yanks don't expect to be under cap in '17. But they will in '18 when Grandy would be off books. That's why Holliday was so attractive-1 year commitment-like Grandy. That said- I don't expect this to happen.

3.) 20 Dec 2016 21:55:51
"I don't expect this to happen" you said it so obviously you did, and do.

4.) 21 Dec 2016 03:39:45
Your first three words say it all.




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11 Jun 2017 01:21:26
I was just looking back at some old posts. Chisox actually proposed atrade in which the Yankees trade
Frazier-Torres-Andujar-Kaprelian-Headley-Gardner-Fowler--Rutherford and Chad Green and receive Quintana-McCutcheon and DRob
Not only does it include 4 Top 100 prospects but it also includes 2 starters. They give up their starting 3B and top 3B prospect and don't get one back.
So, if anyone sees him post-don't waste your time. He is just another delusional White Sox fan.


1.) 21 Jun 2017 13:20:08
^^^This guy uses two months of data to support his claims. He also doesn't understand the stats he throws out.

Please also ignore him.

2.) 30 Jun 2017 20:50:55
That proposal was essentially a joke when everyone thought Q's value was through the roof. Let's see your proposals, Mitch. It's easy to look back at old posts and critique them based on how they are performing now. lol I'm delusional? But you're reading my posts from like last fall.




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02 Dec 2017 22:10:24
Stat-1. Why don't you include Myers' other 660 AB's? Because it lowers his career OPS to .763, which kind of sucks for a 1Bman. Bird played on an ankle that required surgery. Without that his career OPS is .880. Ask someone to explain it to you that it more than 100 points better than .763.
2.Since Myers was called up in 2013-he has played in over 100 games twice. Myers didn't just miss time while colliding with another OF-he had wrist surgery. Did you also conveniently forget that he also had wrist surgery on his other wrist in 2015? Keep up-2 wrist surgeries in back-to-back years. Bird had 3 consecutive years (2013-2015) where he played over 100 games.
3. When I questioned MadBum's health relating to a SP's shoulder-you brought up Bird's health-try to keep up. (your post-27november2017-04:49:09)
4. How could you mention Bird's whole 2017 numbers? He was playing on an ankle that required surgery. Healthy his OPS was .891. Love how you bring up Myers 1.194 in June-how about the fact that in Myers last 2 healthy years ('16 and '17) he has as many months below .700 OPS as he's has over .700. May, July August 2016 and 2017. That's 6 months out of 12 BELOW .700 OPS. Wait- I can't stop laughing! Enough sample size for you? Mitch Moreland-are you kidding me? Bird's healthy numbers would be 2nd in AL. While Myers was 11th of NL qualifiers. Out of 12! 11th out of 12!
5. Ankle injury is "accident" injury. How was shoulder injury "recurring? " Did he miss any time? When? So, he had ONE "non-accident" injury. When you have no viable argument-make up stuff?




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30 Nov 2017 01:45:30
Bird has "questionable health? " Bumgarner hurt his shoulder in a cycle accident. Bird fouled ball off his ankle. He came back healthy and had .891 OPS down stretch. Also has 1.183 OPS at home in post-season career. Myers has never made post-season. Even with Bird's .450 OPS while playing on ankle that needed surgery. Bird has higher OPS of .793 in career compared to Myers' .768. Without those injury numbers-Bird has .880 OPS. Myers last 3-his best years=.789. Comparing them is ridiculous. As for health, Bird played full seasons in '13, '14 and '15. In 2014 and 2015 Myers played in less than 100 games combined ( majors and minors) . How is that a better track record of health? Value- are you kidding me? Myers $4.5 mil/ yr (22 mil in 2020)-Bird half a million. Nuff said? Bumgarner came back with diminished "stuff. " Research the numbers! Pitcher coming off shoulder injury!




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27 Nov 2017 03:44:14
Stat-you are so wrong. Betances will be 30 and MadBum 29 next year. He made 3.0 mil this year and made his 4th consecutive All-Star game. Not skyrocketing cost and great value. Arroyo has only played 48 games at 3B and is ranked #3 while Andujar is #4. Negligible. Andujar would allow SF to move Crawford and slide Arroyo back to his original position saving money (smart business. ) Let's talk about recent performance-MadBum had bad shoulder and only started 17 games. His numbers were also his worst in 5 years. Agree that SF will never trade him-but don't call package"sorry. " Value is there-4 time All-Star plus 3 Top 100 prospects for pitcher would questionable shoulder.




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27 Nov 2017 03:08:48
Give it up Tundra! Myers can't play LF in Yankee Stadium. Bird has 20 HR's in 304 career ABs (perfect Yankee Stadium swing-.921 OPS in postseason) and higher OPS than Myers. Naylor wouldn't even make Yanks. Was suspended and traded by Marlins who gave up on him. So, you want Yanks to give away LH's Gardner, Bird and Hicks from Yankee Stadium for RH Myers, Naylor and good lefty reliever in Hand. Did you know that Montgomery (6th in ROY voting) had 18 starts last year with 2 or less earned runs? Only Kershaw as LHP had more (Keuchel also had 18.) You're also giving away 3 CF's in Gardy, Hicks and Florial and asking Frazier to bat leadoff (nowhere near ready to bat leadoff) and play center (also not a CF. ) So, they weaken defense in LF, CF and lose at least 30 HR's PLUS solid LH starter PLUS #78 OF prospect PLUS 2 live arms in Mitchell and Tate.
Why waste everyone's time with this nonsense.




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26 Nov 2017 16:03:12
Stat-you can't keep using the Sale trade as a baseline. Dombrowski has always overpaid with minor leaguers in his trades. Also, when Moncada was included it only cost money. The Bosox didn't use a high draft pick or valuable trade chip to acquire him. By trading Torres Yanks have nothing to show for his acquisition. Again, I see Shelby Miller/ Swanson nightmare with MadBum trade. Don't think MadBum's numbers going forward at Yankee Stadium would be spectacular. Solid-but definitely not worth Torres. Again- you are way off. I offered 4-time All-Star in Betances, plus excellent SP potential in Acevedo, #4 rated 3B prospect in Andujar and Frazier/ Hicks choice. WAY too much-and you still wanted more. Two years of MadBum coming off shoulder injury-No one will pay your price. Would like to see if others agrre with me, or you. Just curious.





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